Prabhupāda: What is the difficulty of worshiping? You are already worshiping Gaura-Nitāi. Then what is the difficulty? The same.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Well, I'm just afraid that visa problems with the brāhmaṇas.
Prabhupāda: No, no, if you are worshiping Nitāi-Gaura, along with Jagannātha, where is the difficulty?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: We only have two brāhmaṇas in South Africa.
Prabhupāda: No, one brāhmaṇa, half brāhmaṇa will do. Only one hand will do.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Okay. "According to Ṛddha dāsa brahmacārī, head of the local mission, the festival of the chariots glorifies Lord Jagannātha. The Lord of the universe and the chanting of the Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra by people of all ethnic and religious backgrounds in cities in the world over has turned into a truly international event. Durban, with its large Hindu population, is aware of the divine status of Lord Kṛṣṇa, and we pray that by organizing our own chariot festival, we will be able to extend our message to a wider audience."
Prabhupāda: Do it immediately; they are eager. Begin this year. Yes, they'll get life, the Hindus. Immediately advise them. Just like I began in San Francisco on the truck. You know that? So you can begin in that way.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: That was the first ratha cart?
Prabhupāda: Yes. I suggested Śyāmasundara that on a truck you make a ratha-like dome, and put this. It was successful.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: It was in New York?
Prabhupāda: It was San Francisco. The first beginning was in San Francisco.
Hari-śauri: There was pictures of you riding on that ratha cart, that was a truck?
Prabhupāda: No, rather, that was second or third. In the beginning, it was in a truck. So if the people are eager, you immediately organize.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Okay.
Hari-śauri: Śrīla Prabhupāda? Did you want to go out into the garden tonight or not?
Prabhupāda: I have no objection.
Hari-śauri: 'Cause there's no sunshine now.
Prabhupāda: This paper is conducted by the Indians?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Yes. This is produced once a week. All of the Indians in Durban read it. Durban has half a million Indians.
Prabhupāda: But two things are very important: condemning this Sai Baba and welcoming our Ratha-yātrā.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: We have two copies.
Prabhupāda: Our names are also there. Indirectly.