Indian man (1): I have a question. Are you trying to say that human beings are created for sacrifice of God from the beginning to the end?
Prabhupāda: What is your idea?
Indian man (1): I want your idea.
Prabhupāda: First of all I want your idea. (laughter)
Indian man (1): I'm here to listen to you.
Prabhupāda: Then you listen. We are listening that you come to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, and that is perfection.
Indian man (1): You are a giving a truth, a side, already handed out to me, that you have to be Kṛṣṇa conscious.
Prabhupāda: Because you are not Kṛṣṇa conscious... Because you are not Kṛṣṇa conscious, therefore we have to teach you that you become Kṛṣṇa conscious and you become happy.
Indian man (1): That's a given truth you are giving to me.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Indian man (1): Well, how do you know?
Prabhupāda: How do you know it is not truth?
Indian man (1): I don't know. I haven't found out.
Prabhupāda: Therefore you take it truth because we accept the truth from Kṛṣṇa.
Indian man (1): You have accepted it. Have you ever found out?
Prabhupāda: What is that "found out"?
Indian man (1): That being Kṛṣṇa conscious, you're the most happiest person?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Indian man (1): You are?
Prabhupāda: Yes. (laughter) Don't you see practical happiness? I left my home, sannyāsī. I have got my wife. I have got my children..., but how many children I've got... (end)