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That (Caitanya Mahaprabhu in the middle would dance and the four parties will chant Hare Krsna) only happened as long as He stayed there (Jagannatha Puri). Is that right?

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Conversations and Morning Walks

1967 Conversations and Morning Walks


Discourse on Lord Caitanya Play Between Srila Prabhupada and Hayagriva -- April 5-6, 1967, San Francisco:

Prabhupāda: Fourth scene. Yes. "Lord Caitanya meets Sārvabhauma." Now from Jagannātha temple the next scene is Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya's house. Do you follow?

Hayagrīva: Yes.

Prabhupāda: In that house, Caitanya, Lord Caitanya was lying unconscious in ecstasy, the same unconsciousness which He got from the temple. So Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya was trying to treat Him with some water so that He may come to consciousness. Now when His other friends, Nityānanda, Gadādhara and others, arrived there, they told, "Oh, Lord Caitanya, He becomes unconscious while chanting.

So He cannot be revived to His consciousness by any other means. We have to chant." So in the Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya's house that chanting and dancing began with all the members, and gradually Caitanya Mahāprabhu came to consciousness.

Then there was introduction of Caitanya Mahāprabhu through Gopīnātha Ācārya and Gadādhara. And Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya told that, "You become my guest, you, all of you." And he gave them places. Then . . . Caitanya Mahāprabhu was only twenty-four years old, and Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya, he was old man, about sixty years old.

So by acquaintance it was disclosed that Sārvabhauma's father and Caitanya Mahāprabhu's grandfather were class friends. So Jagannātha Miśra, in that sense—Jagannātha Miśra means Caitanya's father—was, I mean to say, a relative, brother-in-law of Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya. So he took Him affectionately and told Him, "My dear boy, You have taken sannyāsa at a very early age. So You should be very careful to study Vedānta-sūtra from me. Otherwise it will be very much difficult for You, young man."

So He agreed, "Yes, you are just like My father. So you will kindly give Me instruction on Vedānta-sūtra." So there was discussion of the Vedānta-sūtra between Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya and Caitanya Mahāprabhu. That discussion is shortly mentioned in the introduction of my Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. You will see it.

Hayagrīva: The discussion between Sarvabhauma?

Prabhupāda: And Caitanya.

Hayagrīva: And Caitanya, regarding . . .

Prabhupāda: Regarding Vedānta-sūtra.

Hayagrīva: That's in the introduction to Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. Yes, I remember that. All right. There's no sense in going over that. All right. What is the outcome of this, now? Final outcome?

Prabhupāda: The outcome is that the Sārvabhauma was impersonalist and Caitanya Mahāprabhu was Vaiṣṇava. Then by argument, logic and everything—that is shortly described there—Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya became a disciple of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu, and he became a greatest devotee. That is the outcome. And it was a great victory on the part of Caitanya Mahāprabhu because Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya was known as the most stubborn scholar of logic of that time, and he became a devotee. Yes.

And by Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya's becoming a devotee of Lord Caitanya, practically He became victorious in His missionary activities, because Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya was a learned scholar in the assembly of the King of Orissa. So the King of Orissa also became a devotee, and many other scholars and big men.

Hayagrīva: Of Caitanya's. They all became devo . . . the King of Orissa?

Prabhupāda: Yes, he became a great devotee.

Hayagrīva: That might even be mentioned in this scene. I don't know if you can mention it here.

Prabhupāda: It is not mentioned, but . . .

Hayagrīva: Well, that's an outcome of this meeting, anyway.

Prabhupāda: When Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya was meeting the King, the King inquired that, "I have heard that there is a big sannyāsī has come here. What is the details of this sannyāsī? I've heard that you have also become a disciple." So Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya explained, "Yes, He's not ordinary sannyāsī. He's Kṛṣṇa Himself, so far I've studied."

So Bhaṭṭācārya, he was authority, a great learned man. And the King, when he heard that He is Kṛṣṇa, he also became a devotee. So all expenditure, all everything was supplied by the King and his officers to Caitanya Mahāprabhu. So many people . . . always four hundred, five hundred men were visiting Him. So whoever would come, and he would supply food and place. And Caitanya Mahāprabhu, He began His chanting of Hare Kṛṣṇa in the Jagannātha temple.

The same scene is being performed here before the Jagannātha temple, Lord Caitanya is dancing. When we perform the class I remembered that scene. Yes. That Caitanya Mahāprabhu is dancing before Jagannātha. Every evening four parties. In each party four mṛdaṅga and eight karatāla.

So one party this side, one party this side, one party back side, one party front side, and Caitanya Mahāprabhu in the middle would dance, and the four parties will chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa . . . that was going on every evening so long He stayed at Jagannātha Purī.

Hayagrīva: This . . . that only happened as long as He stayed there. Is that right?

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Hayagrīva: This no longer . . . they no longer do this.

Prabhupāda: No, not in that way, but kīrtana goes on in the temple still.

Hayagrīva: Not to such an extent.

Prabhupāda: Sometimes to such an extent. But He was different personality. In His presence, that was a different thing. But Caitanya Mahāprabhu's, I mean to say, Deity is within the temple. That Deity is worshiped, and kīrtana takes place, Bhāgavata . . . (indistinct)

Hayagrīva: In Jagannātha.

Prabhupāda: In Jagannātha Purī, yes.

Hayagrīva: All right. Now is that all of the fourth scene? Anything else in the fourth scene?

Prabhupāda: No, nothing.

Hayagrīva: All right. Then that's the end of the third act.