Dr. Patel: Vaiṣṇava is a good citizen of the government of God. That is Vaiṣṇava.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is dharma. And Kṛṣṇa teaches that dharma. Sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekam (BG 18.66). Who will surrender unless he's a Vaiṣṇava?
Pālikā: Śrīla Prabhupāda? This morning you would like to take your breakfast after the program or after resting? Because I do not want to prepare the idli...
Prabhupāda: Later. All other dharmas are cheating.
Dr. Patel: Sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja.
Prabhupāda: This is dharma.
Dr. Patel: Sarva-dharmān means all other vocations, I would say. Dharma means whatever vocation... Is one of the interpretations. "All vocations you leave and come to Me only and be My bhakta." That is... I would... Sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja (BG 18.66).
Prabhupāda: Yes. God is great. We are small. The small business is to serve the great. That is going on everywhere.
Dr. Patel: And mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja means "You do work according to My dictate. That is My śaraṇam."
Prabhupāda: This is śaraṇam, not that you remain independent from śaraṇam. No.
Dr. Patel: That means you obey the infallible laws of God.
Prabhupāda: God says man-manā bhava mad-bhakto mad-yājī mām. This is dharma.
Dr. Patel: They are thinking of psychological, sir. If you think of a particular thing, then you become merge in that. Practically your mind becomes so... That is how the researches are carried out by (indistinct). You become mad on that. You become mad on Kṛṣṇa. You get...
Prabhupāda: It is natural to serve God, to remain faithful to Him. This is natural. Artificially you are trying to be independent. This is the Māyāvāda... Still, they are trying to become God himself.