Prabhupāda: She became widow at the age of eighteen years. So my father engaged her in worshiping Deity. My father was worshiping, and she was the assistant. Of course, she had two children by that time. Yes, go on. (break) ...Kṛṣṇa, and Kṛṣṇa is all attractive. So immediately they attracted the other cows, although they were not actual mother. (break) ...doctor in Calcutta, young man, he married the daughter of a very rich man. So his father-in-law gave him a motorcar, so he advised... He was a businessman. He advised that "Even if you have no practice, you simply ride on this car and go around."
Dr. Patel: (laughter) He's a typical Bengali. (Prabhupāda laughs)
Prabhupāda: So actually, by his going round, he increased his practice. (Indians talking Hindi)
Prabhupāda: (break) ...between demigod. Demigods are also expansion, but that is separated expansion, separated expansion, vibhinnāṁśa. In the Varāha-Purāṇa it is said, vibhinnāṁśa. And here, svāṁśa, personal expansion. (break)
Indian Man (3): I have worked with men of international fame like Colonel De Gaulle, Colonel Acton, Colonel Knowles, but worldwide... (break)
Prabhupāda: Because you do not accept the soul, medical science.
Dr. Patel: Soul is already everywhere. But what do you say? Everywhere means only on the earth, not away from the earth, and then outer space. You want to say... Do you mean outer space also?
Prabhupāda: Oh yes. Sarvaga. Sarvaga means...
Dr. Patel: But these boys have to be kept in those living bags, with saturation of oxygen, who have been to the moon. (break)
Prabhupāda: ...the statement in the Caitanya-caritāmṛta, kṛṣṇa yei bhaje sei baḍa catur: "Unless one is very, very extraordinarily intelligent, he cannot be a devotee of Kṛṣṇa." Svalpa-puṇya-vatāṁ rājan viśvāso naiva jāyate.
- mahā-prasāde govinde
- nāma-brahmaṇi vaiṣṇave
- svalpa-puṇya-vatāṁ rājan
- viśvāso naiva jāyate
This is the statement of the śāstras: "Those who are less pious, they cannot believe in Kṛṣṇa and mahā-prasāda, and the holy name." Yeṣāṁ tv anta-gataṁ pāpam (BG 7.28). So you have given some medicine. (break) ...na bhinnam. Nāsau munir yasya mataṁ na bhinnam. So the medical, anyone, lawyer, medical man, although they are very advanced in science, they have got difference of opinion.
Dr. Patel: Otherwise these modern researches would not have been brought into existence if there was no difference.
Prabhupāda: No, that is their nature, to differ. That is the nature. Nāsau munir yasya mataṁ na bhinnam: "He is not a muni if he does not differ with other muni."
Dr. Patel: Yes, that's it. Muni does not speak. Maunam. (break)
Prabhupāda: Why there is difference? (break) ...and Kṛṣṇa's power is compared. Brahmā's power is just like glowworm, and Kṛṣṇa's power is just like day sunlight. (break) The power displayed, they are of different degrees. That is the difference. The Māyāvādī philosophers, they say everything is water. They give that example. But the sea water, the force of the sea water, and the water in a pot, small pot, the degrees of force are different. In England it is very common to say, "Lord Chelmsford. Lord Chelmsford," do you know?