Prabhupāda: Dhīra means one who is not disturbed by this bodily concept of life. He is dhīra because he knows that "I am not this body," even there is some trouble in respect of body. So Kṛṣṇa advised that titikṣasva bhārata.
Dr. Patel: Titikṣasva.
Prabhupāda: "Even there is some disturbance, tolerate it. Don't be disturbed."
Dr. Patel: Mātra-spārśas tu kaunteya, sukha-duḥkha-daḥ (BG 2.14).
Prabhupāda: Yes. So long the body is there, in connection with the skin disease, we shall be suffering in so many ways. Just like there was accident. So it does not mean that because there was accident that...
Dr. Patel: But somehow or other, you have very much improved after accident, your health.
Prabhupāda: No, I was eating nicely in Africa. The climate is nice.
Indian (6): Was it?
Prabhupāda: Hm.
Dr. Patel: South Africa is just like, just like, as cold as Europe.
Prabhupāda: Not very cold, but it is cold. Durban. Durban.
Dr. Patel: Durban, there is a huge population of Indians, and all Gujaratis.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Dr. Patel: Somehow or other, Bengalis and Gujaratis are akin. Why they have one living in West and other in East? What must be the cause of oneness even in thought and action, in every way.
Prabhupāda: Oneness means Kṛṣṇa. (Hindi) (aside:) Hare Kṛṣṇa. Jaya.
Dr. Patel: In temperament also. (laughs)
Prabhupāda: That is also external. Real unity is on Kṛṣṇa consciousness. (Hindi) The Vedānta begins, athāto brahma jijñāsā: "Just inquire about the soul." And where is that education? This human life, they are opening so many colleges, schools, institutions. Where is the instruction about the soul? So go-kharaḥ. (Hindi) In spite of so much improvement, they are behaving just like cats and dogs. In South Africa the Indians are given the far away from the city.
Dr. Patel: They have been very badly segregated. They can't have any business, I hear.
Prabhupāda: They are put into difficulty.
Dr. Patel: They are following Hitler's method of superiority of... They don't understand that Indians are as superior as they are, rather more, ethically.
Prabhupāda: Everyone thinks that he is superior than everyone.
Dr. Patel: No, no. The Aryan race is...
Prabhupāda: That is the disease, material disease. Therefore Caitanya Mahāprabhu has... Tṛṇād api sunīcena: "You just become..." (end)