Rāmeśvara: Well, say in some philosophy...
Prabhupāda: Just like a father, a real father can say, "I am the father." Who can challenge? Father is one. Who can? Nobody can say "No, you are not father, he's father." No. The real father is father. Father cannot be replaced.
Rāmeśvara: No.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Suppose real father says, "I am the father of this boy." Who will challenge it?
Rāmeśvara: Someone who does not believe my father.
Prabhupāda: That means he's a rascal. But father cannot be changed. He does not know; he challenges, that's all. How the father can be changed? Father is one.
Rāmeśvara: We say that Kṛṣṇa is all good.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Rāmeśvara: And then the materialist says, "If Kṛṣṇa is all good, then how is there any evil?"
Prabhupāda: Evil is you.
Rāmeśvara: But everything comes from Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Everything comes from.... Yes. If.... You have created a situation. So for your satisfaction, Kṛṣṇa has given you the chance, but that is evil, what you have created.
Rāmeśvara: But I have this propensity because I am part of Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: Yes. When you come under māyā, you have got so many propensities. So as soon as you disobey Kṛṣṇa, the māyā is there. Kṛṣṇa-bahirmukha hañā bhoga vāñchā kare nikaṭa-stha māyā tāre jāpaṭiyā dhare (Prema-vivarta), immediately. Just like darkness and light. As soon as you give up light, you come to darkness. There is no second alternative.
Rāmeśvara: Kṛṣṇa is the friend of everyone.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Rāmeśvara: So why does He allow me to have this independence?
Prabhupāda: No, that is His.... Why not?
Rāmeśvara: Because it is not good for me.
Prabhupāda: Then you are not perfectly Kṛṣṇa's aṁśa. Kṛṣṇa has got independence. You see one son is born, even a father has got a black spot here, sometimes the son has got black spot.
Rāmeśvara: But if it's not good for me, if I will misuse it, why would Kṛṣṇa give it to me anyway?
Prabhupāda: Yes, therefore the demand is "You surrender, rascal. You are suffering, you surrender. That is your good..." Therefore He comes, He loves His sons, "You rascals, why you are creating plans? You come here. Sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja (BG 18.66). I shall give you all comforts."
Rāmeśvara: Kṛṣṇa knows everything in the past, and everything in the future.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Rāmeśvara: So when Kṛṣṇa.... Kṛṣṇa knows that I will misuse my independence, but still He gives me independence.