Mr. Malhotra: But after every 11 years or...?
Prabhupāda: No. It comes in rotation, every four years.
Mr. Malhotra: So there are sort of ardha-kumbhīs and then kumbha.
Prabhupāda: Yes. In Allahabad they actually hold every year. Māgha-mela.
Mr. Malhotra: Māgha-mela. But this is not every year, this time people are...
Prabhupāda: It is very, I mean to say, atmosphere becomes surcharged. Great spiritual advancement. Very nice.
Mr. Malhotra: (Hindi conversation)
Prabhupāda: Iran is like, that but no green, simply sand.
Mr. Malhotra: These are the mountains of Deccan. They say that these all mountains were under sea.
Prabhupāda: Yes, everything was... Pralaya-payodhi-jale dhṛtavān asi vedam **. (break)
Mr. Malhotra: (Hindi) ...for quite some time at a particular spot. This spot was shown to us. And people have very great reverence for that spot. So now, at one time we accept Lord Rāma the supreme master of a particular yuga, and then He had to worship Lord Śiva. So who is supreme, Lord Śiva or Lord Rāma?
Prabhupāda: Lord Rāma is the Lord. Śiva is devotee. Sometimes you wash the feet of your son. That does not mean you are a servant of the son. Kṛṣṇa, why Rāma? Kṛṣṇa, when Sudāmā Vipra came to His house, He washed his feet.
Mr. Malhotra: (Hindi)
Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa immediately got down from his siṁhāsana and took his lotus, touch his feet. And Nārada Muni was smiling, nara-līlā.
Mr. Malhotra: Nārada Muni was smiling. (Hindi)
Prabhupāda: Nārada Muni knew it that He is Supreme Lord, but he did not check it.
Mr. Malhotra: He let Lord Kṛṣṇa bow. This is the biggest paradox.
Prabhupāda: Mad-bhakta-pūjābhyadhika (SB 11.19.21). Kṛṣṇa is pleased when His devotee is worshiped. (Hindi)
Mr. Malhotra: When I went to Dvārakā Purī, so there is Bheda Dvārakā in the sea. One is Dvārakā Purī, then about I think 10, 12 miles away there is Bheda Dvārakā. At Bheda Dvārakā, that is the residential palace of Lord Kṛṣṇa. And seven rāṇīs of Lord Kṛṣṇa. They show each building, their whole building. So what was that?
Prabhupāda: He had 16,108 queens.
Mr. Malhotra: 16,108 queens. But there they show I think only 8 or 7.
Prabhupāda: All are described, that he had 16,000 palaces. And Nārada Muni came to see Him, what He is doing actually. He saw different activities, and Kṛṣṇa expanded Himself to 16,108. Each rāṇī had 10 sons, and they had sons also. In this way the Yadu-vaṁśa was crores.