Śrīdhara: Śrīla Prabhupāda, people can understand that the truth is already there, but they can't understand how by meditating on one particular person or thing, all other truths automatically become realized. They want to experiment to find out what is the unlimited truth.
Prabhupāda: Let them experiment. Because he does not know the truth perfectly well.
Śrīdhara: So just by meditating on the person Kṛṣṇa, all other truths become known?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Kīrtanānanda: Prabhupāda doesn't say that no one can...
Prabhupāda: There are some animals, they do not actually touch the egg-birds. Or the, I think, what is called, tortoise. They simply concentrate, and the egg comes into being.
Lokanātha: If you hear the truth, there is no need to make an experiment at all. Isn't it?
Prabhupāda: Hm. That is perfect experiment.
Lokanātha: That is, that happens with full śraddhā. When there is unflinching faith, he will not go for making the experiment.