Guest (1): ...particularly, the particular place, that is...?
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is Goloka Vṛndāvana. Paras tasmād tu bhavo 'nya, mad-dhāma..., yad gatvā na nivartante tad dhāma paramaṁ mama (BG 15.6).
Guest (1): For a man, automatically, he can become Bhagavān. What I mean to say...
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Guest (1): For a man, automatically, he becomes Bhagavān.
Prabhupāda: No. He becomes a servant of Bhagavān. He is servant of Bhagavān. Realization means when he realizes that "I am servant, eternal servant of Bhagavān." That is realization.
Guest (1): So his realization is not Bhagavān.
Prabhupāda: No. Servant of Bhagavān.
Guest (1): Different from Bhagavān.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guest (2): Sāyujya-mukti...
Prabhupāda: Sāyujya-mukti there is, but a devotee does not accept sāyujya-mukti. Sāyujya, sārūpya, sālokya, sāmīpya. There are five kinds of mukti, but sāyujya-mukti is not accepted by the devotees. But if anyone likes sāyujya-mukti, that is not difficult for Kṛṣṇa to offer him sāyujya-mukti.
Guest (1): So a man can can never become Bhagavān.
Prabhupāda: No. How he can be Bhagavān?
Guest (1): And never become Brahman also?
Prabhupāda: No, Brahman he's already.
Guest (1): He is already Brahman?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guest (1): And Paramātmā he is not.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Paramātmā is Param Brahman. There are two words, Brahman and Param Brahman. Just like Arjuna. Arjuna is accepting Kṛṣṇa, paraṁ brahma paraṁ dhāma pavitraṁ paramaṁ bhavān (BG 10.12). Arjuna is accepting Kṛṣṇa as the Param Brahman, the Supreme Brahman. (Hindi) Brahman, every living entity is Brahman, because part and parcel of Supreme Brahman. Just like particle of gold is gold. Mamaivāṁśo jīva-bhūta (BG 15.7). Kṛṣṇa says that "These jīvas, they are My parts and parcels." So as part and parcel, they are also Brahman. Just like a particle of gold is gold, but it is particle, and that is mine. Spark. Spark of fire is fire, but that is qualitatively one, not quantitatively.