Brahmānanda: You said you wanted to give certain titles for different categories? So should we give you a list of...
Prabhupāda: No, you keep this place. We shall write in hand.
Hari-śauri: No title. Just the certificate.
Prabhupāda: Better you can print in script.
Brahmānanda: Yes. We have... Muralīdhara is here.
Prabhupāda: And good, good paper. Then in script we shall write the title.
Brahmānanda: So "This is to..." The title will be... He has here, "devotional service in the field of..." Let's say the field is pūjārī worship.
Prabhupāda: So keep that blank.
Brahmānanda: So that would be the title, Pūjārī Worship?
Prabhupāda: No, title...
Brahmānanda: That would be something else.
Prabhupāda: Something else.
Brahmānanda: So the title could maybe come on the top, like...
Prabhupāda: You can... Where is our paṇḍita? Call him. (chuckling) What is the meaning of kovida?
Pradyumna: "Very expert." Sevā-kovida or...
Prabhupāda: That "kovida" we shall give. "Pūjā-kovida", "Pracāra-kovida," Like that.
Brahmānanda: K-a-u?
Pradyumna: K-o-v-i-d-a. Kovida.
Prabhupāda: "Pūjā-kovida," "pracāra-kovida," like that. We shall... "Kovida" word.
Hari-śauri: What heading does book distribution come under?
Prabhupāda: That is pracāraka. Book distributor-pracāraka, preacher.
Brahmānanda: Temple management?
Prabhupāda: That is, śrī-vigrahārādhana-nitya-nānā-śṛṅgāra-tan-man...**. "Mandira-mārjana-kovida." That is recommended. Śrī-vigrahārā... Pūjā. Ārādhana-kovida. This title. "Ārādhana-kovida," "mārjana-kovida," "pracāraka...," "pracāra-kovida." like that—three, four. Not many.
Brahmānanda: So that can go on the top of the certificate?
Prabhupāda: And one who is learned scholar, then "śāstrī," "bhakti-śāstrī."
Harikeśa: In other words, you want "ārādhana-kovida" instead of "pūjā-kovida."
Prabhupāda: Hm. This is like Bachelor of Arts, Bachelor of Science, like that. Ārādhana-kovida. A.K. (laughter) Instead of B.A., A.K. Make nice paper, nice script, and the titles should be written in handwriting so that he can frame it and keep it.
Hari-śauri: Should there be some kind of a seal?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Harikeśa: We have an ISKCON seal.
Prabhupāda: ISKCON seal or seal like that.
Hari-śauri: Yeah, that's what I meant, like...
Prabhupāda: Gradually we shall increase so that... It should be attractive. He'll like to keep it. People should be encouraged. Utsāha. Utsāha. Utsāha is an item in bhakti, first the utsāha. Just like this boy. He did not come here, so he's so utsāha, enthusiasm. So he should be encouraged. And the whole basis of the devotional service is utsāha. Just like unless there was utsāha, how a man of seventy years old, without any hope, could go to such distant place from Vṛndāvana to New York? The only platform was utsāha. So utsāha is so important thing. Means they should be encouraged, spiritual life. Utsāhān niścayād dhairyāt tat-tat-karma-pravartanāt (Upadeśāmṛta 3). All right. Thank you.