Dr. Patel: You were planning to raise a temple in Kurukṣetra?
Prabhupāda: Yes. I have applied to the government for land, twenty-five acres land.
Dr. Patel: Very big. But is that land available to us?
Prabhupāda: Yes, available. And we have asked government to give us 350 acres of land in Māyāpur to construct Vedic planetarium, 350 feet high. It will require eight crores of rupees minimum. I shall exhibit there all the planetary system, bhurloka, Goloka...
- goloka-nāmni nija-dhāmni tale ca tasya
- devī-maheśa-hari-dhāmasu teṣu teṣu
- te te prabhāva-nicayā vihitāś ca yena
- govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
- (Bs. 5.43)
Dr. Patel: Now the Russians also have come to this conclusion, the Russian scientists and astro-physicists, that there are some planets here in the cosmos which actually have people, I mean, has life like human beings. The other day I read a big article on that. Now they agree.
Prabhupāda: They will agree so many things.
Dr. Patel: They will agree later on that the dialectical materialism is not the right thing, but the dialectical spiritualism is the right thing. What Karl Marx said was wrong. But they have started reading the Vedas and all these, Rāmāyaṇa, Mahābhārata, and...
Prabhupāda: They have got good sympathy for Indian culture.
Dr. Patel: And if they read it, then Karl Marx teaching will go away.
Prabhupāda: And we are getting enquiries from Russia of our books, about our books. We are getting enquiries. I am sending Gopāla Kṛṣṇa to make market of our books.
Guru dāsa: They have some of our books already in Russia.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Dr. Patel: If they start reading Śrīmad-Bhāgavata and Bhagavad-gītā, then Karl Marx will be lost because the sanātana-dharma is a spiritual communism in fact.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guru dāsa: The only difference is that the guru never ends.
Prabhupāda: What is that?
Guru dāsa: The guru never goes out of office.
Dr. Patel: Sanātana is eternal. It is eternal religion. It is the religion of the soul and not of the body, dies. Soul is eternal, so religion is eternal. I am right, sir?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Sanātana means eternal.
Dr. Patel: So this dialectical materialism wherein Karl Marx said that it is a material reaction, chemical reaction in the material, which produces consciousness, it is a falsehood. It is the consciousness keeps the material going. So they will change their opinion now.
Guru dāsa: He's basing philosophy on Hegel, thesis and antithesis.
Dr. Patel: No, No, Hegel.... Yes, Engels, not Hegel.
Guru dāsa: Thesis and antithesis, and then synthesis.
Dr. Patel: Yes, yes.
Guru dāsa: But it's a false philosophy.