Bhagavān: You're planning to leave Wednesday?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Bhagavān: Maybe you'll be better tomorrow.
Prabhupāda: Tomorrow?
Bhagavān: Maybe you will be better.
Prabhupāda: No, that is happening. Sometimes I feel all right.
Hari-śauri: But then as soon as Prabhupāda does any activity, he immediately becomes exhausted, just to go downstairs.
Prabhupāda: Yesterday evening I was thinking, "Now I am feeling all right. Tomorrow I shall go for morning walk," like that. (laughs) That is due to my practice. So the palace is prepared now?
Bhagavān: First class. I think your quarters are the best. Very comfortable. Your bathroom is all redone. You have a nice separate bedroom, separate bathroom, and a very nice, almost this big. It is very sunny.
Prabhupāda: Sunny.
Bhagavān: Very sunny. All day long the sun.
Prabhupāda: It is alluring. (laughter)
Jayatīrtha: Yes, Bhagavān is trying to allure you, I think.
Bhagavān: And we are having Deity installation also. The Kṛṣṇa-Balarama Deity is there. They're very beautiful, extremely. And we have a new Vyāsāsana. I had it made in Italy with all marble, temple. Anyway...
Jayatīrtha: You can send him pictures in India. I was going to ask you, Srila Prabhupāda. If I wanted to install Gaura-Nitai Deities also, like the ones in Baltimore and this farm, here also, along with the Radha-Kṛṣṇa Deities, without two altars...
Prabhupāda: Here?
Jayatīrtha: Yes. Whether or not that's all right.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Jayatīrtha: The devotees very much like to worship Gaura-Nitai along with Radha-Kṛṣṇa.
Bhagavān: You are wanting sun?
Prabhupāda: Yes, sun.
Hari-śauri: No problems.
Jayatīrtha: No stairs.
Hari-śauri: No stairs.
Prabhupāda: No, stairs, I may not come down.
Jayatīrtha: That's the problem. Once he's up, he can't come down.
Prabhupāda: No.
Jayatīrtha: That means he can't go outside.
Prabhupāda: I.... Come down is not so very difficult.
Bhagavān: We have already a palanquin to carry you up.
Pṛthu-putra: We have elevator also, no?
Bhagavān: Yes, we have elevator there also.
Hari-śauri: Is it working?
Bhagavān: Well, it's being fixed right now, but if I.... But we have a palanquin to carry up the stairs. It's actually warm there, very warm during the day, and your room is extremely warm because the sun crosses it all day long, and there won't be anybody to bother you. All the devotees are out of the castle. They're all in little houses all around. And it's so big that you won't feel cramped.
Prabhupāda: So I shall feel hungry also?
Bhagavān: Hungry? No, you ate good there last year. You ate very well there last year.
Prabhupāda: No, I like it. It is very nice place.
Pṛthu-putra: The air is good too.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Pṛthu-putra: The air, the atmosphere, is good.
Bhagavān: I don't know. I was thinking the trip.... We have that big Mercedes limousine. You rode in it last year. It was very comfortable, and the ride, I don't think you found it so difficult, did you? Last year.
Prabhupāda: No.
Jayatīrtha: This year, by the time he got to Bury Place, he was completely exhausted, Bhagavān. Half an hour's drive.
Bhagavān: Hm.
Prabhupāda: That due to the staircase.
Jayatīrtha: But by the time you sat on the Vyasasana there you were already looking very tired, what to speak of...
Bhagavān: Paris has elevator.
Prabhupāda: Paris, I know, that I have told.
Jayatīrtha: (laughs) He told me that when we got to the top of the stairs in Bury Place. He said, "In Paris there is a lift."
Prabhupāda: Ah, yes.
Jayatīrtha: In all respects Paris is superior. (laughs)
Bhagavān: I was just thinking that if you wanted warm weather, it's very warm during the day, and the air is very clean. It's not so dusty.
Prabhupāda: No, in the village there must be.
Bhagavān: The trouble is if you get sick along the way.
Jayatīrtha: On the way back from the airport we had to stop twice.
Bhagavān: Anyway, that trip to India is also long, eight hours. It's also long.
Hari-śauri: Thing is Prabhupāda is thinking that if he has to go to India anyway, so he may as well go straight there.
Bhagavān: The thing is you may be bothered in India. There are so many people who come, even though you say no. Even though you say no, there's always people.
Prabhupāda: No, the present problem is that I cannot go out.
Bhagavān: So that we have.... We have nice palanquin. Remember when you came two years ago, we had a palanquin and we carried you?
Pṛthu-putra: In this engagement, in the Philosophical (?) Society.
Bhagavān: You spoke at one society, and we carried you up a long stair in a very comfortable palanquin.
Prabhupāda: Where?
Bhagavān: In Paris. You gave an engagement at the top of a very big building, and there was no lift, so we built a palanquin and we carried you.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Bhagavān: So that...
Prabhupāda: That library, something?
Bhagavān: Yes.
Hari-śauri: The other thing is, though, that if you go to Paris, then it means you have to go up the steps to get into the airplane, not just in Paris.... At least in London you have to, and then again you have to do it in Paris, and then again you'll have to do it in Tehran.
Bhagavān: Yes, but he doesn't have to.... He can stay there for a while. He doesn't have to go to Tehran.
Hari-śauri: No, you can't fly direct to India from Paris.
Jayatīrtha: He has to stop somewhere along the way. Otherwise...
Bhagavān: We're hoping he'll rapidly recover.
Jayatīrtha: Well, Srila Prabhupāda is not expecting it at this point. Of course, we're all praying for it.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Jayatīrtha: I said we're all praying for your rapid recovery, but whether or not...
Prabhupāda: So why you did not come yesterday?
Bhagavān: I was putting together your Vyasasana. (laughs) All night long I stayed up. Also our printer from Italy, he is wanting to present you with the Kṛṣṇa book. He has had his men working seven days a week, composing. They are composing. It is going to be a very nice book. We had one article in the paper. We went to a book fair, and thousands of publishers.... So the article they wrote on us was that "The association for Kṛṣṇa consciousness produces luxurious books."
Prabhupāda: Why not? Our Kṛṣṇa is most luxurious person. He is never poverty-stricken. Always with gopīs, cowherd boys, killing all demons.
Jayatīrtha: Harikeśa Maharaja and I were discussing last night about your travel plans, and we were debating on what was actually the best place for you to go. So someone was saying Tehran, someone was saying Paris farm, like this, but the point that came out was that as far as health is concerned, India is not the best place for you to go at all.
Prabhupāda: India.
Jayatīrtha: Not the best place. However, the main point is that you want to go there. That was what was felt by the devotees who were discussing, that you want to go to India immediately and that you will feel more comfortable by going to India immediately. That was what was being discussed. Although for health purposes that may not actually be the best.
Hari-śauri: For us India is not very healthy. But for Prabhupāda it's the best place.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Hari-śauri: I said for us India is not so healthy, but for yourself it's the best place.
Bhagavān: Prabhupāda also got sick in India. Remember? Two years ago in Vṛndāvana.
Prabhupāda: Vṛndāvana.
Jayatīrtha: Exactly this time, two years ago.
Bhagavān: Anyway, I think the stair problem is not such a big problem.
Jayatīrtha: No, that is not an insurmountable problem.
Bhagavān: There are three hundred devotees who want to carry you. But I mean there you will not have people coming if you want to rest. There are no.... There are only planned people who would come. But there won't be hundreds of Indians coming to see you. And you have.... Right next to your quarters there's your own private kitchen also, so everything's very close at hand. All your servants quarters are.... That whole floor is.... Actually the whole castle is empty, so there's no noise.
Jayatīrtha: It may be very nice for you there.
Bhagavān: Your quarters.
Prabhupāda: We shall go immediately?
Jayatīrtha: I think that, Srila Prabhupāda, you should not feel obliged in any way to go. Only whatever you think is best for your health condition.
Prabhupāda: No, obliged, I am always obliged to you. That's a fact. Yes.
Jayatīrtha: We are only obliged to you. That's a fact. That is the actual fact. It must be decided, though, what you think is best for your health situation.
Prabhupāda: Whatever you decide.
Bhagavān: Prabhupāda, the only thing I'm just a little concerned is just if you have difficulty in the car. But if that won't be too difficult, I really think that this is ideal. Your quarters are really first class, extremely wonderful. And the only other thing is at night it's cool, but that's not so bad either.
Prabhupāda: No, at night cool will be good.
Bhagavān: And in the morning it is warm at ten o'clock.
Prabhupāda: So kitchen is (indistinct).
Bhagavān: Yes. You have a cook here? Your temple was cooking?
Jayatīrtha: No, Arundhatī is cooking. I think Palika should come? Palika should not come for cooking?
Prabhupāda: She has come?
Jayatīrtha: Should she not come? She wants to come.
Bhagavān: There are so many cooks. Malati is there, and we have.... You've never had problem with cooking in France before.
Hari-śauri: Harikeśa can cook also.
Bhagavān: We all think, though, that whenever you are feeling sick and you go to India, there's always so many people who see you anyway. I remember when you were sick in Vṛndāvana and Brahmananda and I were there. Even though you were sick, at least fifteen people saw you every day, coming in and out constantly, and then you had to sit up.
Jayatīrtha: Actually all of us agreed yesterday when we were discussing it that as far as health purposes is concerned, we do not think it is a good idea for you to go to India immediately.
Hari-śauri: We argued for a half hour against going to India, but in the end, you decided that you wanted to go to Bombay immediately.
Bhagavān: But I mean, if you have to risk that eight-hour plane ride, that's much more difficult than going to the farm. The farm is only three hours in a comfortable car.
Hari-śauri: It's not just that. It's the problem that you have to fly from France to somewhere else and then from somewhere else back to India. I said the main problem is that if you do go to France, then it means a great deal more traveling than would be involved in simply flying to India, because you'd have to travel back and forth to the Paris farm. Then you would also have to stay in Tehran, up and down like that in the plane, and then again fly to Bombay.
Bhagavān: But he doesn't have to stay in the farm for just nine days. He can stay there for long time.
Prabhupāda: If the health suits, I can stay there. If the health improves, I can stay.
Pṛthu-putra: Air India is direct from Geneva.
Prabhupāda: I shall not stay...
Pṛthu-putra: I came back from Bombay to Geneva by direct plane.
Prabhupāda: Yes, there is plane.
Pṛthu-putra: I didn't have to stop in Tehran, and Geneva is very near.
Bhagavān: I think you can recover there. The atmosphere is so nice.
Pṛthu-putra: From the farm Geneva is the same distance than to Paris.
Bhagavān: I mean, more or less whenever you get sick everyone thinks that India is not really the best place, because you're always obliged to so many people. Whether you are feeling like it or not, they always come in the room.
Jayatīrtha: And they are generally.... I know this, that these.... I like Indian people, but these Indian people are not very conscious of your position. They think that you're just another guru. Many of them do. Of course, some of them appreciate you.
Prabhupāda: Indian mentality is that "If we see one saintly person and offer obeisances, we get some blessing for our material..."