Guest (4): Do you think, Swamiji, that man can become perfect?
Prabhupāda: That is the chance of a human being. Therefore in the human society there is school, college, education, culture, not in the animal society, because they can be made into perfect, not the animals. So if they are denied proper education, that is the greatest harm. They got the opportunity, and the authorities are not giving them their opportunity.
Guest (4): No, but do you mean the perfectness is to become God or to become the man? Then I want...
Prabhupāda: You never become God.
Guest (4): What does perfectness mean?
Prabhupāda: Perfect means to become godly.