Prabhupāda: This is a fact, that . . . that life comes from life. In another sense, life does not come; life is existing. It is not exactly the word that life generates. No. Life is existing. The matter is generating. Matter is generating, and it stays for some time, again it is vanished. Just like this body. This body is born at a certain date, and it will be finished at a certain date. This is matter.
(break) The wood was born at a certain date from the tree. It remains green for certain time. Then it is not green—dry. Then, after some time, it will be finished. Matter is not permanent. Matter is changing. Ṣaḍ-vikāra. Six kinds of changes, matter. Birth, then growing . . . matter grows also. Just like the body has grown. It was very small, pea-like body in the beginning, and it grows. So birth, growth, maintenance for some time, then by-product. There are some by-products. And then dwindling, then finished. This is matter.
But life has no such change. When the life is within the matter, it appears that it is taking birth or death. Life is . . . (indistinct) . . . one phase of this change, accept. And when it cannot be maintained anymore, just like this body, when it is too old it cannot be maintained. Just like dress—when it is too old, we change. So these things are there. So matter is . . . life is existing. Life has no change. The change is outward, material things. In all respects we have to prove that life does not come from matter. Matter generates from life, stays for some time, and it is finished. Again begins another chapter.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: The original source is life.
Prabhupāda: Life, yes. They are searching after the original source. That is life, Kṛṣṇa, sarva-kāraṇa-kāraṇam (Bs. 5.1), cause of all causes. So this is not theory, this is fact. Now we have to prove it. Then the whole program of these rascals' theory will be changed, and people will be happy. Because they are standing on a wrong theory, all their calculations are wrong, and people are suffering. The rascal Darwin's theory, so many, based on this foolish theory, wrong conception of life. So we have to challenge, protest, defeat. This will be our work.
Our worshiping of Kṛṣṇa, that is our internal affair. The external affair—we need to establish this theory. Otherwise they'll be leading this society . . . misleading. They are misleading. Not leading; misleading. So we have to stop this misleading. Make program how to do it. Because it is truth, you will come triumphant. There is no doubt about it. It is truth.