Prabhupāda: Yes. Some people will... At least fifty men should live here permanently. That I shall arrange.
Prabhupāda: Fifty at least. Otherwise this big property, how it can be managed? At least fifty men. At least. It may go to two hundred.
Kīrtanānanda: On this property?
Prabhupāda: This whole property. We have to manage so many temples.
Kīrtanānanda: The conservation people estimate that this land will support eighteen people.
Hayagrīva: Well, that's materialists.
Kīrtanānanda: Thirty people, I think.
Hayagrīva: That's a materialistic calculation.
Kīrtanānanda: So if you want one cow for every person, it would only support eighteen cows.
Prabhupāda: Eighteen cows? The whole property?
Kīrtanānanda: If you want them to be self-sufficient, you have to grow grain for them for the winter.
Prabhupāda: All right. Let eighteen people first of all. Then we shall share, eighteen people. You see?
Hayagrīva: One cow per person. We're all going to end up with the gout.
Prabhupāda: No. They don't calculate one cow, one person. They calculate only cow. And that does not mean eighteen persons will only remain.
Hayagrīva: I think a cow can do four or five people nicely.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Why not? No... I calculated, one cow per one person means the milk products he can sell, he can get other necessities of life in that way. Yes. And otherwise, one cow's milk, it can be shared by ten people at least.
Hayagrīva: So eighteen cows, that's 180 people. I mean, could support that many people on the farm.
Prabhupāda: Not support.
Devotee: Give them milk.
Hayagrīva: Oh, give them milk.
Prabhupāda: Milk, yes. Milk products.
Kīrtanānanda: I think you could keep fifty cows on this property if you bought your grain and hay from outside.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That we have to do. We cannot get everything. If we construct temple, we will require so many things. It is not possible to be self-sufficient within this land. We have to get so many things outside. That means we have to get money from outside. Yes.