Prabhupāda: Surrender means agreement.
Mr. Malhotra: Agreement. Individuality will all along exist.
Prabhupāda: Otherwise why is he asking, "You surrender," unless there is individuality? Why this request is there? Because you are individual, you can deny it. That individuality continues. But if you have love for God, then you agree, "Yes, kariṣye vacanaṁ tava (BG 18.73)." So that is wanted. Not that he lost his individuality. Individuality is there.
Mr. Malhotra: Individuality remains. It seems so, that the individuality remains.
Prabhupāda: And this is the fact, Kṛṣṇa says. What Kṛṣṇa says you have to accept. Otherwise, what is the use of reading Bhagavad-gītā? You cannot accept Bhagavad-gītā through your whims. That is nonsense. You must accept as it is. That is wanted.
Mr. Malhotra: This Satya Sai Baba, he is also disciple of Kṛṣṇa. How he produces...?
Prabhupāda: Then if he is disciple of Kṛṣṇa, he would not have foolishly said that he is Bhagavān. That means he is bogus. It is bogus... You cannot say... You are disciple... Just like they are my disciples. They will never say that they are equal to me. They will never say.
Mr. Malhotra: No, no, but what power he has got to produce just now...?
Prabhupāda: That anyone can do, magic, jugglery. It has no meaning.
Mr. Malhotra: He got you know this money.
Prabhupāda: Oh, he can get anything, but that is... Magic. That is... Magician also knows.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Professor Sarkar, a big magician, he kills, cuts people's body, then he joins them.
Prabhupāda: So many things. Magic jugglery is...
Mr. Malhotra: But there are some siddhis also. These siddhi, siddhis.
Prabhupāda: That is siddhi, magic also siddhi. You are successful businessman, that is also siddhi. That is also siddhi. Yatatām api siddhānām (BG 7.3). Even one is siddha, he cannot understand Kṛṣṇa. That is said, yatatām api siddhānām (BG 7.3). Even one is siddha, still he cannot understand Kṛṣṇa.
Mr. Malhotra: But if he goes to āśrama, where and everybody sits there, the big Kṛṣṇa statue is there. In his room personal room Kṛṣṇa statue...
Prabhupāda: If he is at all devotee of Kṛṣṇa, he will never say that he is Bhagavān. That is foolishness. That very assertion is foolishness.
Mr. Malhotra: But Bhagavān, they don't call them Bhagavān.
Prabhupāda: That they write in the books. They don't call, but write in the books.
Hari-śauri: There was one article in the Blitz where they quoted him saying, God is man and man is God.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: He said he is the incarnation for this age.