Prabhupāda: He's a great devotee. Humbleness.
- tṛṇād api sunīcena
- taror api sahiṣṇunā
- amāninā mānadena
- kīrtanīyaḥ sadā hariḥ
- (CC Adi 17.31)
Caitanya...
Dr. Patel: Out of all those things, māna...
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Dr. Patel: ...is the first thing that a man should...
Prabhupāda: Humble and meek. Christ also taught like that. "The humble and meek will go to the kingdom of God."
Dr. Patel: "Meek and humble will..." What is that?
Prabhupāda: Here the disease is nobody is humble, nobody is meek.
Dr. Patel: That is car-dharma.
Prabhupāda: Not car...
Dr. Patel: Car-dharma is that.
Prabhupāda: That is material dharma.
Dr. Patel: This is Kali-yuga, going on.
Prabhupāda: Kali-yuga, it is excessive, but this is going on. Even... Maybe in Satya-yuga it was less.
Dr. Patel: Maybe nothing, perhaps, the first Satya-yuga. People were all saints.