Mr. Malhotra: Viṣṇu, Kṛṣṇa. This Bālajī is Viṣṇu?
Prabhupāda: Viṣṇu.
Mr. Malhotra: How then Viṣṇu, the incarnations, Kṛṣṇa, then Viṣṇu's incarnation...
Prabhupāda: Viṣṇu is everything. If you want material power you can get it from Viṣṇu.
Mr. Malhotra: Material power from Viṣṇu?
Prabhupāda: Yes, Viṣṇu can give everything.
- akāmaḥ sarva-kāmo vā
- mokṣa-kāma udāra-dhīḥ
- tīvreṇa bhakti-yogena
- yajeta puruṣaṁ param
- (SB 2.3.10)
- Paramaṁ puruṣa is Viṣṇu.
Mr. Malhotra: Viṣṇu can give the power of bhakti also.
Prabhupāda: Everything. Yes, bhakti is, generally He gives bhakti. If you want something other than bhakti, you can get it.
Mr. Malhotra: This is the center of M.R.A., Moral rearmament. I phoned them for yesterday, so that Rajmohan Gandhi is away, not here. But the other people are here. We will visit this some time during the day. These days one conference is going on. There are 130 countries. Some conference.
Devotee: There?
Indian man: What is the subject?
Mr. Malhotra: I don't know, remember.
Prabhupāda: Oh, you may not know it, and this will do never any benefit.
Mr. Malhotra: Now this is Pancagani, starts from here. (end)