Prabhupāda: Yes. Cooperate with us. It is scientific. Last night our Dr. Svarūpa Dāmodara presented very scientifically. We can challenge any scientist, any philosopher. So if you become serious, if you cooperate with us, this institution can set a great example, not only in India, but to the whole world. So you are so kind, you have come to see me. You have got desire. So let us take it seriously.
Mr. Rajda: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Correct.
Prabhupāda: It is serious, but nobody has taken it seriously. Bhagavad-gītā is popular book. Everyone takes the Bhagavad-gītā and says: "I am a student of Bhagavad-gītā." It is very simple thing. And if the leaders of the society, they set example, others will follow.
Mr. Rajda: Correct. That's correct. Serious effort should be made. Only lip service will not help. That is correct. No, I fully agree, and we shall definitely apply our mind to that. I am connected with this or I came into contact with this movement when the Juhu temple was demolished, and at that time, under standing committee and ten set of demands. Ah, yes. Then Girirāja and some friends had come to me for cooperation.
Prabhupāda: So you have given me great service. Now it is not only demolished, it is standing there.
Mr. Rajda: No, it is standing and very nice temple.
Prabhupāda: So let us take advantage of it and make a very perfect institution so that people may take advantage. Otherwise . . . there is a Bengali song, māyār bośe jāccho bhese', khāccho hābuḍubu bhāi. Everyone is being washed away by the waves of this material energy. And their attempt to save themselves . . . that is . . . everything is described in the Bhagavad-gītā. Just like in light, during the rainy season, so many worms and flies they come and fall in the fire, phat-phat-phat. They do not know. This is the very description, in the Eleventh Chapter. So we do not condemn material life, but without spiritual understanding, this dog race for material comforts, it may be temporary, very nice, but ultimately it is being carried away by the waves of material nature. Kāraṇaṁ guṇa-saṅgo 'sya sad-asad-janma-yoniṣu (BG 13.22). Let them study Bhagavad-gītā seriously. Let there be serious student to understand, to explain, and everything will be . . . there must be sadācāra.