Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Now we have the farm in Hyderabad. Mahāṁsa's asking for men for the farm, for the temple. They can give...
Prabhupāda: Yes, we have got the biggest farm.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Six hundred acre farm.
Prabhupāda: As we have organized New Vrindaban farm, and Philadelphia farm, so the farm was also to be organized by you. That was the contemplation. So six hundred acres of land. Very nice land. Very nice land. Six hundreds and it is not with (indistinct) like Vṛndāvana, but very fertile.
Harikeśa: It can produce enough food to feed the whole society.
Indian man: Irrigation system?
Harikeśa: Do you want me to take care of?
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: That would be best.
Prabhupāda: Why not?
Harikeśa: The thing is, the money that I had put aside for that farm I gave to Mahāṁsa, so he should give it back.
Prabhupāda: You should be very much encouraged.
Haṁsadūta: No, the money that I put aside to start that farm, to buy some irrigation equipment and so forth-initial investment—I gave it to Mahāṁsa on your order one lakh of rupees. I gave him one lakh.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: This is for construction, and he's going to take it back.
Prabhupāda: No, that is for construction. That is not for the farm.
Harikeśa: No, no, that money, I intended to use for the farm. But it took so long to get that farm. So when we gave it to...
Prabhupāda: No, that can be... That I guaranteed. That I guaranteed one lakh, that if he does not pay, I shall do it. That guarantee still.
Haṁsadūta: Should I develop that scheme then?
Prabhupāda: Yes, let us have the farm first of all. I do not know what is the position now.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: It's coming soon, Mahāṁsa said. So he can develop the farm.
Prabhupāda: So your main business should be mahad-vicalanam. Calanaṁ vicalanam.(?)
Haṁsadūta: It's just that in this one particular problem it would be better, that's all. He has already sent them away. He has already sent a number of men away.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Who? And they are all the temple devotees. What I'm saying is don't rob men from these temples have to be supported. They're taking away men from the temples and the temples...
Haṁsadūta: I don't want to make a fuss, but right now there are six or seven first-class men who are working in your temple who are on this party.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Take them all, but still the temple will go on.
Prabhupāda: He can take them.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Take them out.
Haṁsadūta: That's what I'm afraid, that he's going to...
Prabhupāda: No, no, no. Your men you take.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: I am only requesting you to return the temple devotees which you have stolen. That's all. I don't want one man from this party. We will manage it. Just return the temple devotees.
Haṁsadūta: (talking back and forth to Gopāla Kṛṣṇa-indistinct)
Prabhupāda: Yesterday I told him that temple painting is going on... Who is painting? I never saw. (Hindi conversation)
Akṣayānanda: So we should have one kitchen only. One kitchen? As we had discussed last night. Now we have a Deity kitchen and a devotee kitchen. We also have a guest house kitchen.
Prabhupāda: Why three?
Akṣayānanda: So the devotee kitchen and Deity kitchen could be made into one.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: That's decided.
Akṣayānanda: Yes. So I'll give you a list of the preparations we'll offer for your approval. It means we'll be offering less to the Deity.
Prabhupāda: What is difficulty? (Hindi conversation) How many Deities are there? Guru-Gaurāṅga four, Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma two, six, and...
Akṣayānanda: Kṛṣṇa, Rādhā, and the gopīs.
Prabhupāda: Ten. So...
Akṣayānanda: Small Deity of Gaura-Nitāi. (Hindi conversation)
Prabhupāda: What is your idea? (break)
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: The CID is going to our life members and harassing them. They are scared of becoming our members now. Even in Chandigargh, Caitya-guru told me your books were on display in one life member's stores, he has two stores. And CID went to him and said, "Why are you displaying these books? What's your connection? Why're you helping Hare Kṛṣṇa?"
Prabhupāda: So selling books is illegal?
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: No, but they are just suspecting, they're so suspicious.
Prabhupāda: What is that suspicious? We have got books. We are selling.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. They, you know, because (indistinct). (Hindi)
Akṣayānanda: They just harass us. They don't do any action. They just keep bothering us.
Indian: Two CID inspectors came to my house. And they said they have got so many things in their basements. So I told, you have come without informing me, and I was not informed them. So please come to me one day and decide what is (indistinct). You come with me. I took and I showed...
Prabhupāda: Kya bola? (What did you say?)
Indian man: Sir, I showed everything. (Hindi) You want to help me to go to materialism? They are not CID's, they're not even anything. They are simply devotees. They have come from foreign country and they are...
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: No, the living is simple, then they they will see, yes, (indistinct).
Prabhupāda: And where is the car you have purchased?
Akṣayānanda: It's in Indore now.
Prabhupāda: Where it is?
Akṣayānanda: Madhya Pradesh. I put one brahmacārī in charge of it.
Prabhupāda: They are using.
Akṣayānanda: Yes, very well.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: They're preaching.
Akṣayānanda: Very good boys looking after.
Indian man: (Hindi)
Akṣayānanda: It's a very good car, Prabhupāda.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Thank you very much, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: (Hindi) Visa department, ten dollars.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: In Canada you had problem. I remember when you came to Montreal in '68.
Prabhupāda: Oh, you did not know. Canada I had very little problem. U.S., it was always problem. Rather Canada helped me. Canada, I immediately got immigration in Canada. Then I got some standing. That never mind, I have got now immigration in Canada. It will be easier from Canada to go to U.S.A. Then again I tried for U.S.A. And (in Canada) it was obtained within three months and spending only within hundred dollars. And there, in America, they were spending each time $150. The lawyer was taking. He was phoning, "Will you please send $150 for this expense." And how many times he has taken I do not know. They were paying. Rāyarāma was at that time chief man. He immediately... This was going on. Then when I came to Canada... First of all, I made my position secure, that "Let me have Canadian immigration." So Canadian immigration I got very soon. I think within two months. Then I applied for U.S.A. immigration. So U.S. immigration I got within three months. And I paid I think within hundred dollars. So... You know. When I came to Montreal?
Harikeśa: Very easy...
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. You went for the interview with the U.S. Consulate in Montreal before you got your green card for America.
Prabhupāda: No, no. In Montreal went...
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, you came from Vancouver... From Seattle.
Harikeśa: You came from Vancouver. With one gentleman.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: With Shasti-mai(?).
Prabhupāda: Yes. So there was hard struggle. It is not that so easy for... In 1965 to '66, 66-67, regular hard struggle.
Haṁsadūta: Yes, I know that's a crisis.
Prabhupāda: You know that. Hard struggle. So Kṛṣṇa gave us some facility. Now we have got some framework. Do it very cautiously. Unnecessarily exhausting what we... sato vṛtteḥ sādhu-saṅge. That is Rūpa Gosvāmī's line. We should be very honest and live with sādhu, those who are devotees. Tāṅdera caraṇa-sebi-bhakta-sane bās. First of all our mission should be how to serve the Gosvāmīs.
- ei chay gosāi yār mui tāro dās
- tāṅ-sabāra pada-reṇu mora pañca-grās
You cannot act independently. Caitanya Mahāprabhu...
- śrī-caitanya-mano 'bhīṣṭaṁ
- sthāpitaṁ yena bhū-tale
- svayaṁ rūpaḥ kadā mahyaṁ
- dadāti sva-padāntikam
(When will Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī Prabhupāda, who has established within this material world the mission to fulfill the desire of Lord Caitanya, give me shelter under his lotus feet?)
That should be our prayer. When Rūpa Gosvāmī, who has established the mission of Caitanya Mahāprabhu, when I shall get shelter of his lotus feet. And that is... Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura prays, tāṅdera caraṇa-sebi. Tāṅdera means the six Gosvāmīs. Ei chay gosāi yāṅr tāṅr mui dās. I'm servant of that person who is engaged in the service of the six Gosvāmīs. And we pray to our Guru Mahārāja, rūpānuga-viruddhāpasiddhānta-dhvānta-hāriṇe. Anyone who is going against the decision of Rūpa Gosvāmī, reject him. Rūpānuga-viruddhāpasiddhānta-dhvānta. This is our process. Ei chay gosāi yāṅr.
- rūpa-raghunātha-pade hoibe ākuti
- kabe hāma bujhabo se jugala-pīriti
Who will understand Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa's loving affairs unless one has gone really through the instruction of Rūpa Gosvāmī. Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa loving affairs is not so easy. Rādhā-kuṇḍa is not so easy that by force I go to Rādhā-kuṇḍa and become a candidate.
- rūpa-raghunātha-pade hoibe ākuti
- kabe hāma bujhabo se jugala-pīriti
Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura is hankering, "When I shall understand about Rādhā-kuṇḍa, Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa's prema? Such liberated great devotees, ācāryas, they are hankering. Rūpa-raghunātha-pade hoibe ākuti, kabe hāma bujhabo. When I shall understand? And they have understood immediately everything. (Hindi) That is solved. Not so easy. Caitanya Mahāprabhu has given us the facility.
- abodha karuṇā-sindhu kāciyā mahān
prahlāda brahmā durlab prema nitāi kore dhana(?)
That is the special verse. It is not very easy thing. Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate (BG 7.19). Don't take things very easily. Things are very serious. Therefore we have to go step by step. That is, Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura said, tāṅdera saṅge. Aim should be how to serve Rūpa-Raghunātha. And bhakta-sane bās, to stay with pure devotee who has no other intention. Anyābhilāṣitā-śūnyam (Brs. 1.1.11). This is the process. So do it carefully. That's all.
Devotees: Jaya, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. (break) In the morning we shall go to take my milk from the goat. I'll go early so that I may take the first. And come back, then take my bath early in the morning. I did not take hot water. Cold water. Even in severe winter. Then?
Harikeśa: And one boy called Rādhā-Dāmodara dāsa from New... (end)