Guest (1): (indistinct)
Puṣṭa-kṛṣṇa: (translating) Is it true that when you die, when you're going to die, you get another life?
Guest (1): Reincarnate.
Prabhupāda: Yes. You do not believe in this?
Guest (1): No. For the moment I don't believe it, because when you die, you are not... When you have been damned...
Prabhupāda: You are dying every moment. You are dying every moment. Do you know that?
Guest (1): Yes. I know it.
Prabhupāda: You know it?
Guest (1): Yes, but when we die...
Prabhupāda: No, no, why...? You are dying every moment, not "When we die." You are dying every... Just like what is your age?
Guest (1): I am twenty-two.
Prabhupāda: Twenty-two. Since your birth you have died already twenty-two years. Do you know that? Suppose if you'll live for eighty years, out of that twenty-two years minus, that means you have already died twenty-two years. Is it not?
Devotee: (French)
Guest (1): (French)
Puṣṭa-kṛṣṇa: (translating) How does reincarnation happen when one dies?
Prabhupāda: Now, first of all, you have to admit this, that since your birth you have already died twenty-two years. Do you admit or not?
Guest (1): Yes.
Prabhupāda: Then why do you say "when I die"? You have already died. It is less intelligence only that you cannot understand that you have died twenty-two years. Yes. That is the ignorance. So it is just like bank balance. You have got 100,000 rupees, and you are withdrawing. That means the bank balance is decreasing. So you are destined to live, say, for hundred years. Out of that, twenty-two years you have already died. So why don't you understand that you are dying every moment? So now, if you have understood...
Guest (2): No, you see, I think... (French) You see, these gentlemen want to know whether reincarnation..., reincarnation, whether after death we come back.
Prabhupāda: It is a common sense. You were a child, so that body is dead, and now you are young man. So is it not incarnation?
Guest (2): (French) The same body, different stage in life...
Prabhupāda: Not the same body. Not the same body. (laughter)
Guest (2): No, not the same body. It is the same soul, and the body alters, you see, because the different stages, the structure... (French)
Prabhupāda: Brahmānanda, you come this side. Come this side. It is not the same body. When... When...
Guest (1): (French)
Guest (2): What he want to know, whether the end of the world...
Prabhupāda: No, first of all his question is incarnation. (laughter) You don't talk big, big words. First of all let him understand what is his question. The question is that after death how he is incarnated. That he can understand from the present life. His childhood body is dead, and he still has got a body. This is incarnation.
Guest (2): How do you understand that the end of the world?
Prabhupāda: No, first of all, your first question should be answered.
Guest (2): So he's saying that he has got the message about reincarnation. He understand now.
Prabhupāda: Now, it is clear. It is clear that your childhood body is dead, your boyhood body is dead, and you are still, have a body. This is incarnation.
Guest (2): He understand now.
Guest (3): What he wants to know is, when the soul leaves the body completely, what happens after that?
Prabhupāda: This soul is eternal. It is... The soul is covered by two kinds of body. One is subtle body. Just like you have got your mind; I have got my mind. Do you see your mind? Do I see your mind? (second guest translates into French) So the soul is carried by two kinds of body. One body is this gross, made of earth, water, air, sky, like that. And the other... They are like shirt and coat. This is the coating, and there is another body, shirt, which is made of mind, intelligence, and ego. So when this gross body is finished, the subtle body is there. So at the time of your death the mental condition will carry you to a similar body. (Puṣṭa-kṛṣṇa translates) (break) This mental body you do not see. Therefore you say that this man is dead. It is not dead. The gross body is changed, and the mental body carries him to another gross body. (second guest translates) Any other question? That's all right. (end)