Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: ...are better off than the godless philosophers and jñānīs? These people are better off than the mental speculator jñānīs?
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes, oh, yes, thousand times. (break) ...gentleman has not come?
Devotee: Yesterday? No. Bhāgya.
Prabhupāda: So 'haṁ bhāgya (Hindi conversation)
Indian: (break) ...initiated devotee, and he follows those four regulative principles and chants sixteen rounds, will he go back to Godhead?
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. Mām evaiśyasi asaṁśaya. Kṛṣṇa says. Man-manā bhava mad-bhakto mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru mām evaiśyasi asaṁśaya (BG 18.65). Asaṁśaya, without any doubt.
Indian: But by taking initiation, will that speed up the process?
Prabhupāda: Yes. (break)
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: I inquired yesterday. (break)
Satsvarūpa: ...professor who's going to see you tonight, Professor O'Connell, he wrote a book review of Dr. Judah's book about our movement. And he said it was a very sympathetic book, Dr. Judah's, he said, and a little bit too sympathetic on one point. He made his statement. He thinks that our movement, the way we deny the flesh, he said, he called, "denying the flesh," it tends to make us a little cold in our relations to each other, and people in the Hare Kṛṣṇa movement are denying the natural affection that is somehow connected with the flesh.
Prabhupāda: No, we want to, what is called, reject that society. We cannot become sympathetic with everyone. That is not our policy. Asat-saṅga-tyāga vaiṣṇava ācāra. Caitanya Mahāprabhu, when He was asked what is the general behavior of a Vaiṣṇava, He said that the first thing is that you should give up bad company. So these are bad company. We cannot have any sympathy. We cannot make any compromise with everyone. That is not possible. The modern scientists, they have made quarantine? Quarantine? What is that?
Hari-śauri: If someone has a disease, they separate.
Prabhupāda: Those who are infected, they should be separated. You cannot make any compromise.
Satsvarūpa: His point was that even amongst ourselves, even amongst the devotees, he says, there is not enough expression of love, because we don't allow...
Prabhupāda: Well, then.... Trying to be perfect.
Satsvarūpa: Flesh, skin disease.
Prabhupāda: Perfect does not mean that they should eat meat and drink wine. That does not mean. What is his objection?
Satsvarūpa: I think what it comes down to is that he objects that we are against illicit sex.
Prabhupāda: Oh. (laughter) That means he is accustomed.
Jagadīśa: These professors sit around, discuss topics of Caitanya Mahāprabhu, and drink wine.
Prabhupāda: Just see.