Guest: I understand what you're saying. You're saying you cannot do practices and commit sin, right?
Prabhupāda: Yes. There are, in every religion, there are principles. If you don't follow them, then how you become religious? Therefore this is my question. So nobody is following religious principles at the present moment. Therefore practically there is no religion. Everything is finished. We are trying to revive. If you follow religious principle, then it doesn't matter whether you are Christian or Muhammadan or Hindu or Buddha. Then you are religious. But if you do not follow any religious principle, then how you become religious?
Father: Does that mean to say that you can't live a happy life without being religious?
Prabhupāda: Yes, certainly.
Father: I am eons away from this whole thing, because I don't believe any religion. My son knows this.
Prabhupāda: You do not follow any religion?
Father: None at all. I will give philosophical discussions . . .
Prabhupāda: And still you are happy?
Father: Yes, I'm very happy. I have my moments when I'm not, of course. Basically I'm happy with my family, with my work . . .
Prabhupāda: Do you think your father is happy?
Devotee: No. (laughter)
Father: I don't feel very happy. (laughter) But . . .
Devotee (2): Prabhupāda, earlier today you were speaking in Bhāgavatam class about Ajāmila and how by circumstances he fell down, and that because it wasn't intentional, Kṛṣṇa forgave him. So, but still, at one point or another, he agreed to the desires of the prostitute. So isn't that free will?
Prabhupāda: That is free will, but under the point of revolver.