Prabhupāda: Why do you not understand? God does not create, but you create. Just like you infect some disease, so you create your disease. Nobody's creating your disease. The simple thing, why don't you understand? If you . . . kāraṇaṁ guṇa-saṅgo 'sya (BG 13.22). Kāraṇaṁ guṇa-saṅgo 'sya. Guṇa-saṅga. If you associate with the different qualities of this material nature, then you inf . . . you become infected. You, if you associate with the tamo-guṇa, then you become lower-class man, animals. That is your fault. It is not Kṛṣṇa's fault.
Dr. Patel: All your actions and their effects, which are collecting on you . . . (break)
Indian man (5): . . . knows the procreating from the first word or some people will exercise their so-called free will and choosing sin, and still He creates them. If He were not to . . .
Prabhupāda: No, no, no. There is no question of choosing. As soon as you associate some infectious disease, it is not the question of disease. You must be diseased. This is the law of nature. If you infect the smallpox disease, then you must be suffering from smallpox. That is law of nature. Not that your father has created smallpox disease for you. Try to understand like this. You infect yourself. (break) . . . giving him chance.
Dr. Patel: Chance. But you, as a jīva, is so much engrossed in the māyā, in the tree, in the fruits of it, that you don't heed the God . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes, yes.