Prabhupāda: If one is himself deaf, he'll think others are deaf. So ātmavat manyate jagat, everyone thinks the whole world is like him. Therefore they think Kṛṣṇa also like him. Avajānanti māṁ mūḍhā mānuṣīṁ tanum āśritam (BG 9.11). That is condemned in the Bhagavad-gītā that, "These rascal, because I come in human form to benefit them, they take Me as human being." That is mentioned. But these things are taken like that by the mūḍhas. Mūḍhas means rascals, asses.
David Lawrence: Really they're just talking, as you say, from within their own experience.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
David Lawrence: They're being lacking in imagination really, because they can't imagine what happens when God possesses a man.
Prabhupāda: Because Kṛṣṇa is lifting the Govardhana Hill, they are thinking this is imagination. But if actually Kṛṣṇa is God, is it very difficult for Him to lift a mountain? He's floating so many heavy planets in the air, so, weightlessness. If Kṛṣṇa can make weightless so many heavy planets, is it very difficult for Him to make the Govardhana Hill weightless?
David Lawrence: Not at all.
Prabhupāda: So these things have to be understood.
David Lawrence: So once again, you'd say that this was a . . .
Prabhupāda: Therefore, in the Bhagavad-gītā it is clearly said, bhaktyā mām abhijānāti (BG 18.55): "Simply through devotional service one can understand Me." Others will misunderstand. (break)
David Lawrence: Yes, one doesn't become concerned with these, what really are the superficials of an inner state. You accept and appreciate the validity of bhakti.