Prabhupāda: Unless they are taught about spiritual attraction, everyone will be finished. (break) . . . very childhood they should be given spiritual education. (break) . . . by repressive method you will never be successful.
Siddha-svarūpa: Yes. Repression is also due to frustration. That they can't convince someone . . . (break)
Prabhupāda: Russians are doing that by repression.
Siddha-svarūpa: Yes. Then whenever their back is turned, the people do something else. Or they will stab them in the . . . (break)
Prabhupāda: They do that? (break) Leaders?
Siddha-svarūpa: Yes. (break) Yes. So the only way that they can attract them is to just let them free in the school. But I said that . . . (break)
Prabhupāda: I have seen in the Hawaii University, all hippies.
Siddha-svarūpa: Yes. In Hawaii it's very loose. For instance, even the high schools, they're mostly very loose. But when . . . after it gets too loose, then the students go so much into sense gratification that then there becomes repress . . . (break)
Prabhupāda: . . . solution, they will not take it.
Siddha-svarūpa: Yes, because it would mean they would have . . . (break)
Prabhupāda: He is very intelligent.
Siddha-svarūpa: He speaks straight from his heart, so you can . . . (break) . . . that Yogi Bhajan's philosophy though. He wants everybody to come to the common . . . (break)
Prabhupāda: . . . is responsible for the mistake of the followers.
Siddha-svarūpa: Yes. So now he must have many leaflets printed up with this information about the prime minister's guru. But now it's out of date. It will be out of date. He will have to print new thing.
Prabhupāda: He was distributing leaflet like that?
Siddha-svarūpa: Yes, literature inviting people, you know, about the conference. (to driver) You'd better honk. These guys are really . . . (honking of horn) (break) Is Cāṇakya Paṇḍita widely available in India?
Prabhupāda: That is not very important thing. It has nothing to do with spiritual, but moral instruction.
Siddha-svarūpa: For kṣatriyas?
Prabhupāda: No, for everyone. You can get from India, Cāṇakya Paṇḍita. It is called Cāṇakya-śloka, "Verses composed by Cāṇakya." Cāṇakya-śloka. (japa)