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I'm not talking of religion, beliefs. I'm talking of science and philosophy

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"I'm not talking of religion, beliefs" |"I'm talking of science and philosophy"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1971 Conversations and Morning Walks

Prabhupāda: Everyone knows it. I was a child, but that childhood body is no more. I have got a different body. Similarly, what is the difficulty to understand: when this body will be no more, I'll have to accept another body? It is great science. Prof. Kotovsky: As you know, there is two ultimate, two quite, I mean to say, opposite approaches to this problem. One approach is slightly different by different religions, but in the same time, any religion recognizes in such-or-such form the change . . . Prabhupāda: Takes place. Prof. Kotovsky: Change of place of a spirit. Prabhupāda: Transmigration. Prof. Kotovsky: Called transmigration of spirit, etcetera. As in Christian religion and in Buddhism and Hindu religion . . . Prabhupāda: No, I'm not talking of religion, beliefs. Prof. Kotovsky: Yes. Yes. Prabhupāda: I'm talking of science and philosophy. Prof. Kotovsky: Yes, yes.

Prabhupāda: In the Bhagavad-gītā it is said that dehino 'smin yathā dehe (BG 2.13). Dehe. Deha means this body. So there is a dehinaḥ who owns the body, dehi. So dehino 'smin yathā dehe kaumāraṁ yauvanaṁ jarā. The dehi, the owner of the body, is within, and the body's changing from one form to another. The body of a child, baby, a certain type of form, it changes into another type of form when he's child, another type when boy, another type when he's young, another type, he's old. This is going on. But the owner of the body existing. Similarly, when this body will be completely changed, another body he will accept.

So people do not understand this. As we are accepting different body even in this present life, from babyhood to childhood, from childhood to boyhood, from boyhood to youthhood . . . that's a fact. Everyone knows it. I was a child, but that childhood body is no more. I have got a different body. Similarly, what is the difficulty to understand: when this body will be no more, I'll have to accept another body? It is great science.

Prof. Kotovsky: As you know, there is two ultimate, two quite, I mean to say, opposite approaches to this problem. One approach is slightly different by different religions, but in the same time, any religion recognizes in such-or-such form the change . . .

Prabhupāda: Takes place.

Prof. Kotovsky: Change of place of a spirit.

Prabhupāda: Transmigration.

Prof. Kotovsky: Called transmigration of spirit, etcetera. As in Christian religion and in Buddhism and Hindu religion . . .

Prabhupāda: No, I'm not talking of religion, beliefs.

Prof. Kotovsky: Yes. Yes.

Prabhupāda: I'm talking of science and philosophy.

Prof. Kotovsky: Yes, yes.

Prabhupāda: That is . . .

Prof. Kotovsky: If we can . . . so science and philosophy. But another . . .

Prabhupāda: One religion may accept; one may . . . that is not our purpose. We are talking on the point of that if the owner of the body is permanent in spite of different change of the body, then what is the difficulty to understand that when this body will be changed, the owner of the body will have another body?

Prof. Kotovsky: Yes, another approach is that there is no separate own . . . there is no separate . . . no two phenomena, owner of the body and body.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Prof. Kotovsky: This body and owner of the body is the same.

Prabhupāda: No.

Prof. Kotovsky: When body dies, this owner also dies.

Prabhupāda: No.

Page Title:I'm not talking of religion, beliefs. I'm talking of science and philosophy
Compiler:Soham
Created:2023-03-14, 11:20:00
Totals by Section:BG=0, SB=0, CC=0, OB=0, Lec=0, Con=1, Let=0
No. of Quotes:1