Prabhupāda: Yes, śubhāśubha. When I was in Boston, I was thinking that "I have come here. How they will receive me? As soon as I'll say that 'No meat-eating, no illicit sex, and no gambling, and no intoxication,' immediately they will say, 'Please go home, don't preach here.' All right." So for one year there was no success, you see? And I was going to the shipping company: "When your next ship is coming to return back?" So the manager was telling, "Swamiji, you are always inquiring, but you never go." (all laugh) I said, "Yes, when I am too much frustrated, I come to here to ask you. Then again I go back: 'Let me see two months more.' " It was going like that. Nobody was there with me.
Dr. Patel:
- tulya-nindā-stutir maunī
- santuṣṭo yena kenacit
- aniketaḥ sthira-matir
- bhaktimān me priyo naraḥ
Prabhupāda: (laughing) Aniketaḥ, automatically aniketaḥ. There was no place, no place to live. No money.
Dr. Patel: This is the culmination of a sannyāsī.
Mr. Sar: One who has no place, he lives everywhere.
Prabhupāda: Sannyāsa means aniketaḥ. Now we have got hundred temples. We have got hundred temples. But Kṛṣṇa does not allow me to stay eight days, more than.
Dr. Patel: But how long you going to stay here? You have promised me to stay long, eh?
Prabhupāda: But if Kṛṣṇa allows...
Mr. Sar: I will always pray to Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: I am dependent on Kṛṣṇa. If He allows. Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Dr. Patel: Because we can't come to America to keep your company.
Prabhupāda: No, no, no. Here is a Pacific Ocean. (break) Sometimes I think "When I was simply depending on Kṛṣṇa, those days... Now I have to depend on so many disciples." (laughter)
Dr. Patel: Through Kṛṣṇa the disciples are the sannyāsīs.
Prabhupāda: (laughing) They are good disciples. They are bringing everything. I am simply ordering. Still, I think, "That was better, to depend on..."
Dr. Patel: What is Māyāvāda, Māyāvāda? This, we do not understand anything. māyā is a fact because it is the power of God, and you have got to work with it. So we are all of us are vādīs. Don't talk all these thing now Swamiji, I am going to fire him.
Prabhupāda: No, why you have become angry?
Dr. Patel: No, I don't become angry, I become violent, not angry.
Mr. Sar: Māyāvādī's name is speaker.
Prabhupāda: That means he is Māyāvādī.
Dr. Patel: Māyā is a fact of life.
Prabhupāda: He is becoming angry; that means he is Māyāvāda.
Dr. Patel: Māyā is a fact of life... (end)