Prabhupāda: Oh! Mr. ... Come on. (guests come in) So Mrs. Kallman is going to become a sannyāsī, (indistinct). Gradually you have to become.
Mrs. Kallman: Must.
Prabhupāda: So if you feel uncomfortable you can sit on this.
Mr. Kallman: No, no. The cushion...
Prabhupāda: You are already accustomed
Mr. Kallman: I'm always accustomed.
Prabhupāda: So, how are you?
Mr. Kallman: Very good, Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: You are now in New York?
Mr. Kallman: I live here.
Prabhupāda: Oh. No, you live I know. Sometimes you go out.
Mr. Kallman: Much traveling, but we've come for the parade.
Prabhupāda: Hm.
Mr. Kallman: Down Fifth Avenue.
Prabhupāda: So often you come to the temple?
Mr. Kallman: Yes.
Prabhupāda: That's nice. Hm. So? (break)
Devotee (5): Two hundreds places, universities, schools, government institutions, big ministers, temple managements for all,...
Prabhupāda: They have given all orders?
Devotee (5): Yes, most of them gave orders to our... Even unlike... Some like Unites States some place, they would order all seventeen Caitanya-caritāmṛtas, and all the volumes of Bhāgavatam out and place an order for the rest to come, plus other books. And we lowered the price to about 45 rupees which was, which was right where they can afford to pay for the volumes (indistinct) take them.
Prabhupāda: What is the usual price?
Devotee (5): $7.95 which would be like too many, eighty rupees or something like that. It would be very expensive for India for one volume.
Prabhupāda: So you have reduced the price?
Devotee (5): To forty-five rupees. Gopāla Kṛṣṇa made it very, very reasonable for them that they can partake.
Prabhupāda: That's all right. They are taking the book. That is wanted. We don't want much profit.
Devotee (5): Many, many reviewers also from those big Sanskrits, the largest in the world (indistinct) professors here they also read the reviews and very much appreciate the books. All of the different parts we visited, from north to south, east to west.
Prabhupāda: They're welcome. That's fine. So make world party.
Satsvarūpa: Yes, we're very excited to do that. We're going to present it to the GBC.
Prabhupāda: Hmm.
Satsvarūpa: What our practical plan is. Take this same party everywhere, Europe and then India and then other places too.
Prabhupāda: We are getting good response for our books all over the world.
Devotee (6): Constantly growing. Any new volumes coming out?
Devotee (1): We'll be coming (indistinct) when we get (indistinct) ...to let you translate as much because now we're getting lots of tapes recorders. (indistinct) ...70, 90, 100 books for one class, so they...that's when the students are waiting for more books. They're constantly saying more and more.
Prabhupāda: So, you'll get it, you'll get it.
Rāmeśvara: Thank you, Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: So, give prasādam to Mr. Kallman.
Mr. Kallman: Prabhupāda, could you please accept this small donation.
Prabhupāda: Thank you. Give this garland.
Devotee: We are still building the front, left over from Gaurahari's work. So we're constantly putting more money into the front(?), for your use, whatever.
Prabhupāda: Yes, my funds are being utilized in printing books, and expanding centers. My book trust is divided into two. Fifty percent for the printing the books and fifty percent for expanding centers.
Mr. Kallman: Any way I can help Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Thank you. Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Mr. Kallman: You're going to have a big parade. My favorite.
Prabhupāda: You have got that store?
Mr. Kallman: Well, we're doing well wholesaling now, Prabhupāda. We sell to stores, department stores across the United States. We had to give up the store because we couldn't have, you know, timewise.
Prabhupāda: Hm. You are now making wholesaling.
Mr. Kallman: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Yes!
Mr. Kallman: More volume.
Prabhupāda: Wholesale business is better than retail business. My father was a wholesale, cloth seller, cloth merchant. So, he liked wholesale business, not retail.
Mr. Kallman: The wholesale is much better. It's more financial...
Prabhupāda: A little profit, but aggregate is better.
Mr. Kallman: The volume is more.
Prabhupāda: Yes, volume is more. In those days, he was making cloth business, he was making profit one anna or two paise per piece.
Mr. Kallman: Very small profit.
Prabhupāda: Yes. The Marwari business man, they want to sell, for suppose, one lakh of worth goods, if there is customer to pay him immediately one lakh ten rupees, he'll sell, immediately sell. He thinks "I've got that ten rupees," that's all. Again person. That is their way of doing it. They are not calculating that I have invested one lakh of rupees, I must get at least ten percent profit. No. Not at loss. A little profit. "Never mind, give me cash." That is Marwari business. And he, when he goes to purchase from his supplier, he sees that this man is purchasing at the time one lakh, two lakh. So he gives him all credit.
Mr. Kallman: Works on the credit.
Prabhupāda: So later on, he establishes his credit (and) without any payment, he gets supplies. And they keep their credit. On the day of payment, they must pay.
Mr. Kallman: Yes, exactly.
Prabhupāda: Therefore the Marwaris, they become very big businessmen.
Mr. Kallman: Very powerful.
Prabhupāda: Yes. This Birlas, they have become so big, they have so much credit in the market that by telephone they will ask any gold merchant, that you purchase one thousand tolās of gold for me. He'll immediately purchase, because he has a credit.
Mr. Kallman: Sure, many years.
Prabhupāda: And next moment he phones another gold merchant, "What is the price," he says. Say one anna less... I'll sell one hundred tolās. So he'll purchase without any investment and sells immediately and makes one hundred tolās, one anna profit, some (indistinct).
Mr. Kallman: Sure.
Prabhupāda: By telephone.
Mr. Kallman: Very quick.
Prabhupāda: In this way, they become very, very big. They know how to use this art, these Marwaris. If you are going in India, you'll see Marwaris are very quickly, they will come. They know how to do business.
Mr. Kallman: Volume.
Prabhupāda: Volume. Volume of the... Of course, volume of business can be done which is easily seller.
Mr. Kallman: A very good market, the United States for clothing.
Prabhupāda: Clothing.
Mr. Kallman: Yes, constantly growing.
Prabhupāda: You are purchasing from Ahmedabad?
Mr. Kallman: We purchase from Bombay, out of Bombay.
Prabhupāda: Aḥ, Bombay. Bombay is the center. So now we are having our temple, whenever you go, you can stay with us.
Mr. Kallman: Yes, we've been out there many times.
Prabhupāda: Hmm, hmm!
Mrs. Kallman: In Vṛndāvana?
Prabhupāda: Vṛndāvana, Bombay.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Bombay also.
Prabhupāda: And Māy... You have been in Māyāpur also?
Mr. Kallman: No, we haven't ever been to Māyāpur. We keep...
Prabhupāda: Mm, Māyāpur also.
Mrs. Kallman: How is the school in Vṛndāvana? The school?
Prabhupāda: That is still, building is going on.
Mrs. Kallman: Have they started?
Prabhupāda: After the building is finished.
Mr. Kallman: Oh, you know, you must be very busy Prabhupāda, with your writings and your books.
Prabhupāda: Yes, at night. At day time, I don't find time.
Mr. Kallman: Hmm, hmm.
Prabhupāda: But at night, I wait.
Mr. Kallman: So, we just came to say hello.
Prabhupāda: Hm.
Mr. Kallman: To see you.
Prabhupāda: Thank you very much.
Mr. Kallman: We'll see you at the parade.
Prabhupāda: Give this to Mrs. Kallman. Yes.
Mr. Kallman: Very, very much. Thank you very much, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa, jaya.
Rāmeśvara: We've been talking, if these management questions come, then it is a distraction, but also... Even if the devotees are here and it is preachings, even then it's, so much time is taken. So we want to do the thing which is most pleasing. So we were thinking to arrange a (indistinct) less darśana with the devotees.
Prabhupāda: But outsider, if they refuse, they may be sādhu (?).
Rāmeśvara: Hm.
Prabhupāda: That is...
Satsvarūpa: No outsiders.
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Satsvarūpa: No outsiders.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Satsvarūpa: We are arranging, I have arranged that each time in the morning when we go for a walk, we are taking all the devotees...
Prabhupāda: Only for outsider you keep, say from 5 to 6, and...
Rāmeśvara: Important men.
Prabhupāda: Ha.
Rāmeśvara: If they are important.
Prabhupāda: Let them come one by one. If they come one at a time, they will sit down. They'll not try to go away. But if they come, see first too many, and go away, then another comes. Then it will be nice interview.
Rāmeśvara: I see. There must be management.
Hari-śauri: And the devotees can come in the morning for class.
Prabhupāda: That's right. Try this experiment.
Rāmeśvara: Anything that we can do to assist you in the translating work is the best service...
Prabhupāda: Hm, yes.
Rāmeśvara: Thank you, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. (break)