Prabhupāda: Darwin has taken from here, and he has tried to explain in a hodgepodge way so that he may get the credit, that's all.
Ravīndra-svarūpa: The plants have more consciousness, manifest consciousness, than aquatics?
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Ravīndra-svarūpa: That plants and grass, they are more conscious than aquatics.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is also mentioned in the Bhāgavata, about different animals, how they are conscious, developed.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: In the Bhāgavata, in the later chapters, Śrīla Prabhupāda? Not up to the present Fourth Canto that...
Prabhupāda: Fourth Canto there is, how one animal is more conscious than the other.
Ravīndra-svarūpa: Yes.
Devotee: Prabhupāda, did you say that trees have the ability to see and hear in the Bhāgavatam?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Devotee: How is that?
Prabhupāda: Just like a vulture, he has got more seeing power than you. Is it not?
Devotee: Yes. He sees the carcass, you give the example, from way up.
Prabhupāda: Yes. (chuckles) But he can see only the carcass.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: That is also acintya-śakti of the vulture. He can see... He has special eyes.
Prabhupāda: No, it is acintya-śakti for us, but Kṛṣṇa has given different power to different animals. For us it is acintya, not for Kṛṣṇa.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Not for...?
Prabhupāda: For Kṛṣṇa there is nothing like acintya. Therefore we have to take knowledge from Kṛṣṇa. (break)
Balavanta: ...the Vikings first discovered America, they said.
Brahmānanda: From Scandanavia came, before Columbus.
Balavanta: But Mahābhārata describes all the continents even way before that, doesn't it?
Prabhupāda: Yes. (end)