Devotee (2): Śrīla Prabhupāda, in Bhagavad-gītā...
Prabhupāda: First of all, you discuss this point, everyone is God and everyone is guru.
Devotee (2): Only if one hears from the right authority can one be guru. Spiritual knowledge is descending.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: The premise of the Vedas is that there's a creator of everything.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: There's a creator of everything. Janmādy asya yataḥ (SB 1.1.1). Origin of everything. The premise of these so-called spiritual masters...
Prabhupāda: No, this is a common sense. If everyone is God, then what is the necessity of finding out a guru? Guru means who explains about God. Everyone is God, then what is the use of explanation? There is no need of guru.
Devotee (2): How can God be controlled by His own energy, illusory energy?
Prabhupāda: So many things. Foolish men can accept that, "Everyone is God, everyone is guru." That is foolish man's proposition and accepted by fools.
Devotee (2): It is explained in Back to Godhead magazine that (indistinct) serve Kṛṣṇa, serve God. If someone tells you that he is guru (indistinct).
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: So to accept a spiritual master must mean that one is in ignorance and one is enlightened.
Prabhupāda: For ignorance there is no need of guru. An ignorant cannot inquire about God. Intelligent man can inquire about God.
Guest: We have to pick up our children. Thank you. (break)
Prabhupāda: Pick up children from a school? Do you know him?
Devotee (2): They're from Wheeling.
Dhṛṣṭadyumna: Once you said, Śrīla Prabhupāda, "If you are God, what will you do when I kick on your face?" Because if God is creating the sun, such a great planet in the sky, thousands of tons of energy, so if they are the source of the sun, but "What can they do if I kick in their face? Nothing. So how is that God?" Kṛṣṇa, when..., someone was, Paundraka, he was saying he was God, He said, "All right, hold My cakra." And He took off his head. So to these false Gods we can say "What will you do if we kick you in the face? You cannot save yourself."
Prabhupāda: That is the proper treatment. (laughter)