Prajāpati: Śrīla Prabhupāda, why has it taken so long for a pure devotee to come to the West? Has the West been so sinful that no pure devotee has come before Your Divine Grace?
Prabhupāda: (laughs) Don't be sorry. At that time, you were so sinful that you could not receive a pure devotee.
Karandhara: Yes. Once in a lecture a lady asked you why hadn't you come sooner, and you just said, "Well, you weren't ready for me."
Prabhupāda: Yes, "Because you were not ready." (laughs) Yes, I told. Yes. Now the Western boys, the descendant of the Western people, they are fortunate; therefore they receive Kṛṣṇa. Kona bhāgyavān jīva (CC Madhya 19.151). It is Kṛṣṇa's desire that "These people are suffering so much; let some devotees come here." So you are all devotees. You have come to join together.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Śrīla Prabhupāda, during the progress of evolutionary process, suppose if the individual soul falls down from the human platform . . .
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: The individual soul falls down from the human platform to some other lower species, but in the course of again evolutionary process, at some stage along the path he'll come to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Is this . . .?
Prabhupāda: Yes, yes. That is the process. Evolution means to come to that end, Kṛṣṇa consciousness. That is real evolution. If one misses the chance, then again falls down. But the natural progress is that.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: But ultimately he will come to Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
Prabhupāda: Yes, ultimately everyone will come to Kṛṣṇa. Not Kṛṣṇa consciousness, but Kṛṣṇa. At the end of this world, devastation, they enter into the body of Kṛṣṇa. They remain there.
Hṛdayānanda: That wouldn't be very good for a devotee.
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Hṛdayānanda: That wouldn't be very good for a devotee.
Prabhupāda: But they have no sense. These birds are feedees? Or their bodily extension is so much? I think they're feedees.
Hṛdayānanda: They're what.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: What? Very nice.
Prabhupāda: Just see how they are experienced. They're not afraid of the ocean, although they are very small. They know how to save him. Mattaḥ smṛtir jñānam apohanaṁ ca (BG 15.15). Kṛṣṇa is there within the heart. They are giving, "Now get up." They immediately get up.