Svarūpa Dāmodara: So. Śrīla Prabhupāda, is it all right to include that, these ninety-two chemical elements as finer, er, finer form of earth?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Mixture of so many things. But actually, that is the fact. Just like iron, gold, everything you find. Just like earth, but you have to purify.
Rūpānuga: So earth is a mixture of all these different elements?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: So we can call this...
Prabhupāda: Different quality of earth.
Rūpānuga: Like subcategory.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Actually, in water also, all these, most of these earth materials are there, because it dissolves in water. Water is so many salts and elements, in a dissolved form.
Prabhupāda: That I told you, that in the earth all other five elements are there.
Rūpānuga: So water precedes earth in the creation. Water comes first.
Prabhupāda: No, ether.
Rūpānuga: I mean water comes before earth. Earth is last, and water is just before. So that we find earth in water.
Prabhupāda: Water it dries up.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: He's saying you can find earth in water.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Rūpānuga: That's the point you made.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes.
Prabhupāda: That I am stating, that when water dries up, we find deposits of earth.
Rūpānuga: Yes, because it precedes, and earth is being created from water, so you'll find earth in water originally.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: But still water is one element less than earth.
Prabhupāda: No, earth is full of all elements.
Hari-śauri: What he is saying is back to front then. If earth has all the elements in it, then the other one says you go successively back, should have one less. So why is it water has earth in it when earth is the last one to be produced?
Prabhupāda: Not visible.
Rūpānuga: Oh, it's not manifest
Prabhupāda: Yes, not manifest.
Rūpānuga: So earth is in a nonmanifest state in the water, and when you analyze water sometimes you can analyze and produce little particles of earth. Is that right?
Prabhupāda: Hmm. Everything is there. Not prominent, that's all.
Rūpānuga: So the main characteristic then is the water that is prominent.
Prabhupāda: Just like the skin, you cannot find water, but there is water.
Rūpānuga: So earth is prominent.
Prabhupāda: Just like you cut the skin, the blood will come. What is the blood? That is water.
Sadāpūta: That is mineral water, it has minerals in it.
Prabhupāda: That may be, but it is water.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Actually, the composition of that particular element is predominant. When we say water, say there are some minerals, but the mineral percentage-wise is very less, but the percentage of water of more.
Rūpānuga: There is no pure water. Can there be pure water, completely pure water? If we analyze, we will find pure water?
Prabhupāda: Nothing can be pure.
Rūpānuga: Not in this material world. They say that they distill it, but just like they say fire is pure, but fire is not pure. There are living entities living in the fire. They have gross, grossly defined...
Prabhupāda: The sterilization has no meaning. The living entity will stay. Otherwise, how it is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā: nainaṁ dahati pāvakaḥ? Find out.
Hari-śauri: You were saying yesterday that in all state of matter there is always some living condition to be found. Even in a body that is supposed to be dead, there is life coming from it.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Actually when the body dies, we say that it decomposes, actually that decomposition is done by small microbes. These microbes at this big body...
Prabhupāda: They become prominent, that's all. (break)
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Light.
Prabhupāda: Light. Fire means heat and light.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: What is magnetism?
Prabhupāda: Magnetism also another action of the fire. We used to do that. Rubbing, rubbing, rubbing.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Electricity.
Rūpānuga: Friction.
Prabhupāda: And it would, get one fine paper, you'll get.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Hairs will stand on end.
Prabhupāda: So magnetism means another action of the fire. (laughter)
Svarūpa Dāmodara: We talk sometimes things very complicated, Śrīla Prabhupāda, but Prabhupāda explains it very simply. (laughs)
Prabhupāda: Because I am not scientist. (laughter) Just like I captured immediately, common sense.