Harikeśa: Kālacānda means black, very black. Gaura means fair.
Prabhupāda: When Gaurachand was called, a black Negro came. So if Kalachand is called, who will come then? (laughter)
Hari-śauri: There seems to be such an amazing repertoire of stories and analogies in the Bengali language, isn't there? So many.
Prabhupāda: In Bengal the, just like here, so many, black mixed up with white. In Bengal and Madras, so many Dravidian have been mixed up with the Āryan. Therefore in Bengal and Madras you'll find many black.
Hari-śauri: Dravidians?
Prabhupāda: Dravidian culture. Dravida. They are non-Āryans. Just like these Africans, they are not Āryans. Now they are mixing up with European and American. In India, it was, one from the higher section, brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaiśya, they will be fair complexion. Śūdras, black. So if a brāhmaṇa becomes black, then he's not accepted as brāhmaṇa. Kāla-bahu. And if a śūdra becomes fair, then he's to be known, understood, that he's not pure śūdra. Although we do not take very . . . but this brāhmin, kṣatriya, vaiśya by birth, but still, we have seen, those who are coming purely from high caste family, their behavior and śūdras' behavior, different. The family culture. Although spiritually culture lost, still, the family culture keeps them separate.