Dr. Kneupper: Do you basically reject the modern civilization?
Prabhupāda: No, no. I say they are being foolishly trained.
Dr. Kneupper: I see.
Prabhupāda: The whole education system is bad.
Dr. Kneupper: You see no hope that there will be change.
Prabhupāda: There is hope. There is cent percent hope, provided you accept the right way.
Dr. Kneupper: But would you say the right way would have to be, let's say, to be a follower of Kṛṣṇa?
Prabhupāda: God means Kṛṣṇa.
Dr. Kneupper: What about...? As I understand, in the Gītā...
Prabhupāda: God... Kṛṣṇa means all-attractive. So God must be all-attractive, full controller. Our definition of God is
- aiśvaryasya samagrasya
- vīryasya yaśasaḥ śriyaḥ
- jñāna-vairāgyayoś caiva
- sannam iti bhagam itīṅganāḥ
- (Viṣṇu Purāṇa 6.5.47)
All wealth, all power, all intelligence, all beauty, all renunciation. In this way.
Jagadīśa: These are new books in French, Kṛṣṇa Book and Upadeśāmṛta. This devotee has just brought them from Bhagavān dāsa.
Prabhupāda: Oh. Thank you. When you have come?
Devotee: Two days ago.
Prabhupāda: Oh. You know French language?
Dr. Kneupper: Yes. Yes, I saw a copy earlier today at the... The man who did the translation, I forget his name. He worked on the translation. It's very beautiful.
Prabhupāda: Oh, you have seen it.
Dr. Kneupper: Yes. I forget his name. It's very nice.
Prabhupāda: This is French book, Kṛṣṇa.
Dr. Kneupper: Yes, Umāpati.
Prabhupāda: Oh, Umāpati. He is here.
Dr. Kneupper: Yes, I met him this afternoon.