Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: That was the first ratha cart?
Prabhupāda: Yes. I suggested Śyāmasundara that on a truck you make a ratha-like dome, and put this. It was successful.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: It was in New York?
Prabhupāda: It was San Francisco. The first beginning was in San Francisco.
Hari-śauri: There was pictures of you riding on that ratha cart, that was a truck?
Prabhupāda: No, rather, that was second or third. In the beginning, it was in a truck. So if the people are eager, you immediately organize.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Okay.
Hari-śauri: Śrīla Prabhupāda? Did you want to go out into the garden tonight or not?
Prabhupāda: I have no objection.
Hari-śauri: 'Cause there's no sunshine now.
Prabhupāda: This paper is conducted by the Indians?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Yes. This is produced once a week. All of the Indians in Durban read it. Durban has half a million Indians.
Prabhupāda: But two things are very important: condemning this Sai Baba and welcoming our Ratha-yātrā.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: We have two copies.
Prabhupāda: Our names are also there. Indirectly.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda is mentioned, Hare Kṛṣṇa movement.
Prabhupāda: Factually, these rascals are creating magic jugglery. Even during the time of Kṛṣṇa such rascals were there. Pauṇḍraka. So Kṛṣṇa was present, He immediately cut off his head. (laughs) They should be immediately cut off their head, rascals. Yes. That is the only punishment for them. What another news you told me?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Yes, also they started, they've called the department the Department of Hindu Studies.... There's an all-Indian University in Durban, and when Śrīla Prabhupāda visited South Africa, the president of the university was a European gentleman, he very much appreciated our philosophy and the need for a Department of Hindu Studies. So Śrīla Prabhupāda recommended Svarūpa Dāmodara, and we submitted his application. And they've limited the choices for the Ph.D. in charge of the Department of Hindu Studies to three, and one of them is Svarūpa Dāmodara. So there's a possibility...