Prabhupāda: . . . (indistinct) . . . (break) "What is this pressure?" "Sir is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. (laughter) And very bad." Some day somebody says, "No, it is good." (laughter) But Kṛṣṇa pressure.
Haṁsadūta: That pressure is being felt.
Prabhupāda: (Bengali) Otherwise, who cares for whom? There are so many things. Here also, they are feeling the pressure, the so-called svāmīs, yogīs, gosvāmīs, religious groups, Māyāvādīs . . .
Hari-śauri: Communists.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Hari-śauri: Communists, too.
Prabhupāda: Communists. That is our success. Everyone is now feeling the pressure. (Bengali) and they are talking (Bengali). In such a short time, so much money, so much expansion, so many devotees, what is this? That is Kṛṣṇa.
Haṁsadūta: Like Vāmanadeva expanded His foot, and He covered the . . .
Prabhupāda: (laughs) Yes.
Haṁsadūta: First people thought, "Oh these are crazy fellows," and now suddenly they are everywhere.
Prabhupāda: (Bengali) Almost all of them, doctor, who have spoken. You have read that?
Haṁsadūta: Yes, I have read. All respectable.
Prabhupāda: Indian and American, all learned scholars, they have spoken. Where is that statement given? And Dr. Shaligram, he has spoken very nice. Where is that? Dr. Shaligram, Indian Professor, anthropology or something like that. So now better to see the movement from behind, who is that man behind it. (laughter)
Haṁsadūta: Now they're looking for you.
Prabhupāda: That British government said, "Gandhi in jail is more dangerous than he is free." (laughter)
Hari-śauri: These are the statements.
Prabhupāda: Hmm. Dr. Shaligram?
Hari-śauri: Yeah, Dr. Shaligram Shukla.
Prabhupāda: Hmm.
Hari-śauri: Education: he graduated from the University of Cambridge and a B.A. in Classical Languages 1962. Graduated from Cornell University, Ithaca, New York, in Tibetan Linguists and he has a Ph.D. in Linguistics.
Prabhupāda: Cambridge?
Hari-śauri: He has several . . . he has several books out. "He was born in India in a traditional brāhmaṇa family. He learned Sanskrit at the age of 10, and his knowledge of the Hindu scriptures written in Sanskrit is very profound. He has committed to memory the entire Bhagavad-Gītā scripture and one fourth of the Ṛg Veda. He himself is a worshiper of Kṛṣṇa. His teachings is a way of life, and he is extremely competent to judge whether the Hare Kṛṣṇa movement is authentic and bona fide."
Devotee (2): He came to see you in Washington.
Prabhupāda: Hmm.
Hari-śauri: So this was his statement. "There are eighteen chapters in Bhagavad-gītā, eighteen thousand verses in the Śrīmad Bhāgavatam and several hundred verses in the Upaniṣads. These are the literary works which form the foundation of Indian culture and religion. They are all in Sanskrit. His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda, founder of the Hare Kṛṣṇa movement, has transcribed these texts, has translated them and has explained their essence in English . . . from Sanskrit into English. One is an ancient classical language and the other a foreign language, a difficult task indeed. I have state . . ." (break)
Prabhupāda: Brahman means unlimited happiness. Ananta brahma-saukyam ananta suddhyed sattvam yasmād suddhyed satya. You purify your existence and you are hankering after happiness, you'll get the unlimited, greatest happiness, yasmād brahma-saukyam anantam. Hmm.