Devotee (1): Did you have some places to see down in, ah, for Prabhupāda to see in the next day or two?
Dhanañjaya: There's this one big church I went to see in Hammersmith, and I thought he could see... (devotees conversing in background)
Prabhupāda: Where is Himavatī?
Devotee (2) (Haṁsadūta?): She's... I think she's upstairs in the... (more devotee conversation in background)
Devotee (1): There is one very large church to see on Monday.
Prabhupāda: Monday.
Devotee (1): Yeah. Not before.
Prabhupāda: Why not before?
Dhanañjaya: Well, we can arrange for this week also a church.
Prabhupāda: Where it is?
Dhanañjaya: It's in Hammersmith, Hammersmith.
Prabhupāda: How far?
Dhanañjaya: From here its about five miles, four or five miles.
Devotee (1): It's, ah, towards the airport.
Prabhupāda: Towards the airport. So not bad.
Devotee (1): Not bad. No, it's still downtown.
Dhanañjaya: It's on the motorway. It's very near to the motorway, the motorway coming from the airport into central London.
Prabhupāda: So why not see earlier? Have you got any description?
Dhanañjaya: Well, we can't see it earlier because it belongs to the Methodist Church, and their committee members are meeting in another city, in Manchester, for a week. They have their..., a big congress meeting there. So they don't come back until the end of this week.
Devotee (1): So we can't see it while they're meeting?
Dhanañjaya: Well we could see it from the outside. Actually we went there one day, Mr. Allen(?) and (indistinct) and myself.
Prabhupāda: Well, what is the description?
Dhanañjaya: It's very nice. It's something like, ah, something like the size of this temple but bigger.
Devotee (2): Bigger than Los Angeles?
Dhanañjaya: And also it has a steeple.
Prabhupāda: Bigger, bigger. What is the price?
Dhanañjaya: Oh, more than 250,000 pounds.
Devotee (2): Quarter of a million pounds. Two lakhs of pounds.
Devotee (1): So that's six million dollars?
Dhanañjaya: No, one million. One million dollars.
Prabhupāda: You have got?
Devotee (2): No, it's not a million dollars. It's only 600,000.
Dhanañjaya: Well they said between 250,000 and 350,000 pounds.
Devotee (2): Oh, the money, the money won't be as important as the place. If we get the place, we can get the money, I think.
Dhanañjaya: But still there is a congregation. It's not available immediately.
Prabhupāda: Oh.
Dhanañjaya: There's a congregation there still.
Devotee (Revatīnandana?): You have no idea when it would be available?
Devotee (2): Tomorrow I will go out, some of the others will go out, we'll find some places to look at for you. I have some friends, we'll all go see them.
Prabhupāda: So what do you think of this Dr. Sar? As he speaks, it is all right, do you think? Does he speak more than what he is?
Devotee: Is he trustworthy?
Dhanañjaya: Yes, he speaks more than what he is.
Prabhupāda: Oh.
Devotee (Revatīnandana?): Yes. I, I, I don't like him very much. I, I don't know what his motive is, you know. I don't think his motive is strictly very much..., you know?
Dhanañjaya: He approached me and he said... I was talking about life members to him, saying, "Why shouldn't it be one hundred pounds? This is a good price for life members." And he said, "Well, fifty-one pounds, this is the value of one hundred(?) rupees." He said, "I am prepared to give fifty-one pounds." Then he said, "Actually, I have given already more than than fifty-one pounds. I have given Kṛṣṇa's jewelry, so why you don't make me life member?" And I said, "But you have not asked." And he said, "But I have given at least..."
Devotee (2): Make him life member. He's given all the jewelry.
Prabhupāda: Is he a very influential man?
Dhanañjaya: What's the definition of influential man?
Prabhupāda: Or he's not very... He talks?
Dhanañjaya: He talks a bit about his community, but he's not produced anything for this community. He's produced some money for the jewelry. This is very nice.
Devotee (1): Personal money. Personal money?
Dhanañjaya: Not just personal money.
Prabhupāda: Do you think he can help us by raising funds?
Dhanañjaya: He can help, but I don't think he can raise thousands and thousands and thousands. See, personally he has no money. He told me he has no money. He's simply at his job he gets so much money.
Prabhupāda: And he's working somewhere?
Dhanañjaya: Yes, he's working. He's in Oxford Street, very near.
Prabhupāda: And he says that he's M.A., Ph.D.? You see? So? He says so.
Dhanañjaya: Yes, he's a graduate.
Devotee (1): He's a doctorate, Ph.D.?
Dhanañjaya: But still not so influential.
Prabhupāda: Neither you are. Is he reliable?
Dhanañjaya: Well, he's said so many times, "I can help, I can help." But still he's not produced anything positive.
Prabhupāda: This carpet was donated by him?
Dhanañjaya: Yes, this rug.
Devotee (2): This? This has been here for years. In the beginning he did, I guess. Mukunda would know.
Prabhupāda: So you can ask Nanda Kumāra to give me milk in that way.
Devotee (2): Yes.
Prabhupāda: Or you can ask Himavatī. What is your formula?
Devotee (Revatīnandana): Ginger powder and a little bit of saffron and sugar. Heat it up for a while, and then after a little while mix thoroughly and serve like that. It's good for digestion.
Prabhupāda: You give to Nanda Kumāra, because he will give.
Revatīnandana: Yeah.