Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I felt very... I thought that was good, that recovery doesn't mean simply laying in bed for the next few years, but recovery means actually being fit. He says it's gradual. He says, "Now, the medicine I've given for the kidneys over the past week, the kidney has not gotten worse. It's improved a little." He said, "So that..." (break)
Prabhupāda: You don't strain for collecting. Then spiritual progress will be hampered.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Don't strain for collecting. Then spiritual progress will be hampered. That's a fact.
Jayapatākā: It seems that the temple could be completed within seven years without straining.
Prabhupāda: That is nice.
Jayapatākā: Then we can have it completed by the five-hundredth-year anniversary of Lord Caitanya...
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Jayapatākā: ...which is in eight years.
Prabhupāda: Do it. That is...
Jayapatākā: And the architect at Māyāpur, he said that the temple that's inside the big temple, that could be opened up to the public within three years by having just some type of false ceiling, and then the upper stories, work can go on. That means within three years people could start visiting the temple and using it, which will also be a big inspiration to the public. And then the upstairs and complete outside would be completed.
Prabhupāda: Do like that. That is very good idea. And different name, you can purchase.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Bhaktivedanta Swami Charity Trust?
Jayapatākā: Each of the..., like gośāla, handloom, these can be separately formed into societies, which would be easier for bookkeeping and management anyway, and each of those societies can purchase the land on which their handloom or gośāla, whatever is, they can purchase that land in that name.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Kṛṣi-go-rakṣya bhūmi Trust.
Jayapatākā: Mr. Chowdury tried, but now he's been transferred from the development commissioner. Now he's the transport commissioner. So now all he can do is give us a free... He gives us, tax free, vehicles. But he can't give us the land anymore.
Prabhupāda: Tax free?
Jayapatākā: Our vehicles in Bengal, we don't pay any road tax. He's the transport commissioner, but he's no longer development commissioner. And if the government gives us some land on acquisition, we'll take. But I don't think they'll give a big amount, neither we should wait for that.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No. That's also utopian.
Jayapatākā: When they see we're doing something, automatically they want to also help.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And that bridge is a good idea. Pontoon bridge.
Jayapatākā: Because so many tourists are coming. The local M.L.A., he told me now there's thousands and thousands people coming. This last weekend there was... At any time you could see hundreds of people walking on the road to take darśana So now the local man, he wants to build some guesthouse on his own, the government, where they're going to serve meat and other things. That's why our temple, we want to... We're getting our guesthouse all straightened up. If we have a restaurant, then we'll be able to take all the tourist traffic.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So why don't you have a restaurant?
Jayapatākā: That was supposed to be done this year, but then Bombay took all the funds. Prabhupāda sanctioned it already last year. It was a good idea. But Māyāpur has become very popular. This is all due to your effort, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Simply due to your efforts Māyāpur and Navadvīpa is becoming so much more famous and popular. We want to make the Māyāpur temple so beautiful and make the city so nice that not only the Queen of England and the President of United States, but even the Russian and Chinese leaders, they'll all have to come to see this. They can't avoid. Will that please Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura? If all the leaders, all these presidents and kings would come and visit the temple at Māyāpur, that would please Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura?
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Seems like your activities, Śrīla Prabhupāda, are so much pleasing to the previous ācāryas.
Jayapatākā: This is the secret you are showing, working towards satisfying the desires of the previous ācāryas.
Prabhupāda: Tāṅdera caraṇa-sebi-bhakta-sane bās. So you are all bhaktas. To live with you, to serve the lotus feet of the ācāryas, that's good...