Prabhupāda: I ask all my disciples to get married. I don't allow these boys living with boyfriend, girlfriend. No. You must get yourself married, life like gentlemen, treat your wife as assistant, treat your husband as your provider. In this way, I am teaching them. This boy was married just four days before. He is professor. So I have got so many of my disciples married, and they are living very happily. This girl is married. Formerly, they were living with girlfriend, boyfriend. I don't allow that. I don't allow that.
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Conversations and Morning Walks
1968 Conversations and Morning Walks
1969 Conversations and Morning Walks
Room Conversation -- April 11, 1969, New York:
Prabhupāda: The flute, Kṛṣṇa's flute is because He is cowboy. The cowboys still play in that flute. In India you'll find. Because the cows are let... They are doing their own work, and what this boy will do? They are playing. There are many cowherds boys, they are playing. Sometimes playing on flutes, sometimes sporting, sometimes eating. So Kṛṣṇa was exactly doing like that. All the cowboy friend went with Him. Kṛṣṇa was, of course, a very rich man's son. His father was very rich. So He used to take with Him very nice foodstuff, lugdoo, kacaurī. And other, His poor friends, they were taking capātīs, dry capātīs. (laughs) So they were enjoying, dividing, "Your food, my food, his food." And sometimes there was some trouble in the forest because Kamsa was after Kṛṣṇa to kill Him. He was sending his assistants. So some asura would come, Bakāsura, Aghāsura, and Kṛṣṇa would kill. And the boys would return and narrate the story to their mother. "Oh, my dear mother! Such and such thing happened and Kṛṣṇa killed it! Very..." (laughter) The mother will, "Oh, yes, our Kṛṣṇa is very wonderful!" (laughter) So Kṛṣṇa was their enjoyment. That's all. The mother is speaking of Kṛṣṇa, the boy is speaking of Kṛṣṇa. So therefore they did not know anything but Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa. Whenever there is some trouble, "Oh Kṛṣṇa." When there is fire, "Oh, Kṛṣṇa." That is the beauty of Vṛndāvana. Their mind is absorbed in Kṛṣṇa. Not through philosophy. Not through understanding, but natural love. "Kṛṣṇa is our village boy, our relative, our friend, our lover, our master." Some way or other, Kṛṣṇa. That is the beauty.
Room Conversation -- April 11, 1969, New York:
And sometimes there was some trouble in the forest because Kamsa was after Kṛṣṇa to kill Him. He was sending his assistants. So some asura would come, Bakāsura, Aghāsura, and Kṛṣṇa would kill. And the boys would return and narrate the story to their mother. "Oh, my dear mother! Such and such thing happened and Kṛṣṇa killed it! Very..." (laughter) The mother will, "Oh, yes, our Kṛṣṇa is very wonderful!" (laughter) So Kṛṣṇa was their enjoyment. That's all.
Meeting with Devotees -- June 9, 1969, New Vrindaban:
Prabhupāda: I think he should be, like that. You become secretary, and Śyāma dāsī become assistant secretary. Of course, everything should be decided in a meeting, and president may be have as a casting vote, but the decision of the meeting will be actually the decision. Not that president autocracy, no. Or he may be president, you may be vice president and others, Śyāma dāsī, secretary, and treasurer he is. From sampradāya point of view, sannyāsī has to be given the top post. Do you think he will overrule you? (Laughs)
Meeting with Devotees -- June 9, 1969, New Vrindaban:
Prabhupāda: That is... No. So far, if you ask my advice, he should do that work, outside propaganda, preaching. But as you say that his presence is required, therefore I say he may remain here. Otherwise, to remain here is not his duty as a sannyāsī. That is actually your duty, to organize the local management and everything. And his duty is outside work, preaching. He may have one assistant, and he can travel. He can educate your countrymen that "Here is a nice thing we are developing. Please come and cooperate." Invite him, and when he comes you receive him and give him good reception. In this way you have to make propaganda, outside and inside.
Meeting with Devotees -- June 9, 1969, New Vrindaban:
Prabhupāda: Our local temples may arrange lectures, and he can impress people about the importance of this movement. Not only one, I require several such preachers now. Now we are improving. We are increasing our propaganda. We require several such assistants. So those who have decided to remain brahmacārī, some of them, those who are experienced, they can accept this sannyāsa order and preach. Outside propaganda is also required. Don't you think? Outside propaganda?
Meeting with Devotees -- June 9, 1969, New Vrindaban:
Prabhupāda: Sometimes I think that "I came here with no money, and now I am spending so much money in traveling." (laughter) Aeroplanes. As soon as I get on aeroplane, immediately two hundred dollars. And not only I am, my assistant also. So Kṛṣṇa will provide. That doesn't matter.
Lord Caitanya Play Told to Tamala Krsna -- August 4, 1969, Los Angeles:
Prabhupāda: Yes. Not always. But people used to present some foodstuffs. Especially when the devotees would come from Bengal side, somebody is bringing something, somebody is... Whatever Caitanya Mahāprabhu likes. And they will prepare the whole year nice foodstuffs. That is, what is called, preserved food. You can keep it for days together. So His personal assistant was Govinda, and everyone will, I mean to say, offer Govinda, "Please offer this food to Prabhu." And Govinda will keep. And everyone is anxious whether his goods are taken.
Discussion with BTG Staff -- December 24, 1969, Boston:
Prabhupāda: You are not yet nation." He was talking like that. So actually his experience was nice, that since the Britishers have gone away, the management of Indian government is not nice. They cannot manage. So he was experienced. He told. I sometimes remember that Professor Kidd told me like that. (laughs) So we have to create nice administrator. That is another function, you see? Every department, we shall create assistant, assistant. So that in case he is ill or he is sick, he cannot work, somebody must work for him.
Discussion with BTG Staff -- December 24, 1969, Boston:
Brahmānanda: That is how we can expand also.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Some assistant always must be there, training of assistant. So far your editorial is concerned, you can train. Now Puruṣottama, he can also assist you. Similarly, Gaurasundara can assist you.
Satsvarūpa: Jayadvaita is already...
Prabhupāda: Ah, Jayadvaita. So in this way you should create assistant editors also.
Hayagrīva: Then the process thus far we have, someone types off the dictaphone. Now, thus far you've been doing this?
Discussion with BTG Staff -- December 24, 1969, Boston:
Satsvarūpa: Jadurānī asks are they going too slow? She wants to know are they going too slow. They have thirty pictures ready.
Prabhupāda: One thing, that Jadurānī should have some assistants. She alone cannot do that.
Satsvarūpa: Well, Prabhupāda, you used that word once before, assistant. So then when Jāhnavā saw that letter she said, "That means I should paint." So all that assistant meant was that they all painted. And Śāradīyā began to paint. I don't know what you mean by assistant.
Prabhupāda: Assistant means that they should work under her direction. That is assistant.
Satsvarūpa: And produce pictures side by side with her.
Prabhupāda: Yes. I give some idea, sketch, and then under that sketch, instruction of Jadurānī, and...
Discussion with BTG Staff -- December 24, 1969, Boston:
Kīrtanānanda: Yes. She was wearing a sari at the temple. She looks very nice.
Prabhupāda: No, she is nice. She is talented.
Satsvarūpa: She could be an assistant painter.
Prabhupāda: And why not somebody marry her? If somebody want to marry, then she will be all right.
Brahmānanda: Nayanābhirāma wanted to marry her.
Prabhupāda: Then why not ask and get her married? Yes. Then she will be fixed up. I think she requires to be married. Then she will be satisfied.
1971 Conversations and Morning Walks
Room Conversation -- February 17, 1971, Gorakhpur:
Prabhupāda: He never surrendered to Kṛṣṇa. I wrote him letter. "Mahatma Gandhi, you have got so much influence. You just preach the gospel of Kṛṣṇa, Bhagavad-gītā. Now we have attained svarāj. You don't be in politics." But he was still in politics after attainment of svarāj. And his assistants became disgusted because he was interfering, and therefore he was killed. And that is open secret. If he would have surrendered to Kṛṣṇa, "All right. Now I have worked for svarāj. My people have got svarāj. Now let me work for Kṛṣṇa,"... He never did that.
Conversation with Prof. Kotovsky -- June 22, 1971, Moscow:
Prabhupāda: So if there is some discussion, I am prepared. It is, after all, for the whole human society, and it is being practically appreciated. So if there is possibility, I am, for two days I can meet some gentlemen. I can meet.
Prof. Kotovsky: Well, if you can ask Mr. Natarajan from embassy, to perform...
Prabhupāda: No, not, not in that way. If some of your assistant does it, then it is all right because, to tell you frankly, so far our Indian government is concerned, they are not very much interested with this movement. Yes. Their program is different.
Prof. Kotovsky: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Interview with Reporters -- November 10, 1971, New Delhi:
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Reporter: Kotovsky only. That's all. He couldn't bring some people? Just his...
Prabhupāda: Yes. He had his assistants, I had my assistants.
Reporter: ...and some other people who said "All right, we'll hear, like to hear..."
Prabhupāda: Well, that professor wanted to hear, that's all right. So I... My conclusion was that "Your communistic idea has not very much improved from our idea, because you cannot do without surrendering. Our Kṛṣṇa philosophy is to surrender to Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa says, sarva dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇam (BG 18.66). So your surrendering process is there. You have not improved. You say God consciousness or Kṛṣṇa consciousness is not good, but you have not improved, because instead of Kṛṣṇa, you have surrendered to Lenin. That's all. So you have to surrender in any circumstance. Either you become communist or this 'ist' or that 'ist,' you have to surrender."
Room Conversation with Dr. Karan Singh, -- November 25, 1971, Delhi:
Prabhupāda: Yes. That qualification... Love of Kṛṣṇa is not so easy. We have to reach that point after many processes. Exactly in the same way, to become a secretary of the president, personal assistant, it is not very easy job. It requires some qualification. Similarly, to serve Kṛṣṇa, it requires some qualification. And what is that qualification? Sarvopādhi-vinirmuktaṁ tat-paratvena nirmalam: (CC Madhya 19.170) when we give up our designation. At the present moment, we are all designated: "I am Indian," "I am Christian," "I am American," "I am Pakistani," "I am Hindustani." These designations are going on. When you give up your designation, sarvopādhi-vinirmuktaṁ (CC Madhya 19.170), that is mukti. "I am not Indian," "I am not Christian," "I am not Pakistani," "I am not Hindu." What you are?
1972 Conversations and Morning Walks
Room Conversation with Dai Nippon -- April 22, 1972, Tokyo:
Prabhupāda: ...so many assistants. Similarly, God can expand Himself for different... So Lord Buddha appeared to stop animal killing. Keśava dhṛta-buddha-śarīra jaya jagadīśa hare. This is Sanskrit. Lord Kṛṣṇa, Keśava, He was very much compassionate on the poor animals. "And now you have appeared as Lord Buddha," buddha-śarīra, "taking the body of Lord Buddha." Sadaya-hṛdaya darśita-paśu-ghātam. He was so much compassionate by seeing unnecessarily animal sacrifice.
Room Conversation with Dai Nippon -- April 22, 1972, Tokyo:
Prabhupāda: We are all priests because we are preaching. All my students and myself, we are preaching. We are on the priestly level. So our philosophy is ataḥ pumbhir dvija-śreṣṭhā varṇāśrama-vibhāgaśaḥ, svanuṣṭhitasya dharmasya saṁsiddhir hari-toṣaṇam (SB 1.2.13). Everyone has got some professional or occupational duty. Just like you are printer. We are preachers. Somebody is something else. Everyone has got different occupational duty. So our philosophy is that it doesn't matter what business you are doing, but see that your life is successful. That is our philosophy. And how our life can become successful? Varṇāśrama-vibhāgaśaḥ, svanuṣṭhitasya dharmasya saṁsiddhir hari-toṣaṇam (SB 1.2.13). If you can preach Lord Buddha or Kṛṣṇa, it doesn't matter. I have already explained Lord Buddha is expansion of Kṛṣṇa. So if Lord Buddha is satisfied, then your life is successful. It doesn't matter what you are doing, but by your action Lord Buddha must be satisfied. Just like your assistants. Their business is to satisfy you. Whatever they may do, it doesn't matter. If you are satisfied, their business is successful.
Room Conversation with Dai Nippon -- April 22, 1972, Tokyo:
Prabhupāda: We have got so many nice vegetable preparations. We prepare from milk casein with nice preparations. If you want some of our assistants will teach you. So I think instead of eating meat, if you eat that preparation, it is tasting almost like meat, but it is strictly milk preparation. That is as much nutritious also, full of vitamins. (Japanese)
Dai Nippon representative: Even you catch cold, you don't go to, you don't consult with doctor, medical doctor.
Room Conversation with Dai Nippon -- April 22, 1972, Tokyo:
Prabhupāda: Yes. We avoid doctor's bill. Yes. As far as possible. And we, because we are vegetarian, hardly we get sick. If you take strictly vegetarian food, you will avoid so many doctor's bills. Yes. Because our constitution is meant for eating vegetables. Just like this teeth. This is not meant for eating meat. It is meant for eating fruits, vegetables, grains. Our constitution is made like that. In India still 80% population (break) ...grains, milk products, vegetables, fruits, and sugar. You can make hundreds of nice palatable dishes. Sometimes we invite Mr. Tajima. You accept our invitation. You'll see. The other day I invited your assistant. (Japanese)
Dai Nippon representative: There are some special vegetables for the Buddhists also. Vegetable meat.
Prabhupāda: Vegetable meat?
Conversation with the GBC -- May 25, 1972, Los Angeles:
Prabhupāda: Africa is one.
Devotee: Yes. (indistinct—more background discussion on map and countries)
Prabhupāda: Gradually this GBC, they can take assistants to help them. (indistinct) One change, Toronto, just see (indistinct) not be necessary. Take care (indistinct—more background discussion on map and countries).
Devotee: Twelve zones.
Prabhupāda: Twelve zones means?
Room Conversation -- August 1, 1972, London:
Devotee: This is the only society where Kṛṣṇa is the owner of everything.
Prabhupāda: And all my assistants, they are also working in that capacity. If I would have been proprietor, then they would not have been interested.
Devotee: Hm.
1973 Conversations and Morning Walks
Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay:
Prabhupāda: And the belly will give energy, food, that is vaiśya. And the legs will carry the body. That is śūdra. This is... Whole society should be divided into four divisions, the brāhmaṇas, the kṣatriyas, the vaiśyas and the śūdras. And they should work cooperatively for the total benefit of the body. This is perfect life. Not that everyone should be brain. Then who will carry me? Just like in your bank, the manager is the brain. The secretaries and assistants are the hands, clerks. And ordinary worker, they are legs. Anywhere you go, you must find out these four divisions.
Room Conversation with Banker -- September 21, 1973, Bombay:
Banker: I took some courses. My major courses were in business. But I took some in philosophy, ethic, logic.
Prabhupāda: So apart from that metaphysical, from this worldly platform, there must be divisions. Just like in your bank, if everyone is manager, that is not possible. There must be clerks and other assistants. So that is required. The society must be divided into four classes. That is brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaiśya, śūdra.
Banker: My question is how does one determine into which part he goes?
Morning Walk -- December 13, 1973, Los Angeles:
Prabhupāda: This is our proposition. We don't say that "Stop all these material activities." No. Just do it properly so that you get real profit and real benefit. That is our program. We don't want to make it zero, no. Why shall I make it zero? (break) ...can be taken just like there is business, but the workers, the assistants, they have no idea who is the proprietor. So everyone is doing something, taking pocket, something this, take pocket, his pocket, so how the business will go on nicely? That is being done.
1974 Conversations and Morning Walks
Morning Walk 'Varnasrama College' -- March 14, 1974, Vrndavana:
Prabhupāda: Business means if you have got extra grains or extra foodstuff, you can sell where there is necessity, there is want. That is business. We are not going to open mills and factories and... No. We are not going to do that. That is śūdra business. The real business is that you produce enough food grains, as much as possible, and you eat and distribute. That's all. This is business. He does not require any so high technical education. Anyone can till the ground and grow food. Is it difficult? This is the business. The first thing is that everyone, man and animal, especially the cows, they must be properly fed so become very stout and strong. Cows will supply milk, and man will work hard, without being suffered by dysentery. He must work hard. Any capacity. Work as a teacher or work as a kṣatriya, work as a ploughman. Or work as general assistant. He must work. Everyone should be employed. And his employment will be provided from any of these groups, according to his capacity. Either as a brāhmaṇa, or as a kṣatriya, or as a vaiśya, or as a śūdra.
Hṛdayānanda: What kind of training is there for a śūdra?
Prabhupāda: Śūdra is general assistant.
Hṛdayānanda: Oh, just...
Prabhupāda: Order-carrier. He has no intelligence. He doesn't require intelligence. "Do this." That's all.
Satsvarūpa: What would he learn at the school, though?
Morning Walk -- March 17, 1974, Vrndavana:
Prabhupāda: So do it! So don't speak. Now organize. Now there is no question of speaking. Practical. Everyone should take a leading part, and the saṅkīrtana nuisance should be started from Bombay. So Balavanta Prabhu, you are taking?
Balavanta: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Yes (break) ...assistants selected, so many sannyāsīs, and do it. You take the leaders.
Balavanta: Yes. (break)
Prabhupāda: ...idea.
Balavanta: Yes.
Prabhupāda: That is intelligence. (break) And we shall pollute the whole world with this nuisance.
Morning Walk -- April 16, 1974, Bombay:
Prabhupāda: She became widow at the age of eighteen years. So my father engaged her in worshiping Deity. My father was worshiping, and she was the assistant. Of course, she had two children by that time. Yes, go on. (break) ...Kṛṣṇa, and Kṛṣṇa is all attractive. So immediately they attracted the other cows, although they were not actual mother. (break) ...doctor in Calcutta, young man, he married the daughter of a very rich man. So his father-in-law gave him a motorcar, so he advised... He was a businessman. He advised that "Even if you have no practice, you simply ride on this car and go around."
Morning Walk -- June 29, 1974, Melbourne:
Prabhupāda: Naked. This is hellish. (dog barking) Now this, another hellish life. His only business is to bark. The master may like to keep a dog, but if he is said that "You also become a dog," he will not agree. Will he agree?
Madhudviṣa: But whether he agrees or not, he will become one, if he is too much attached. (break) ...the chief engineer of building the chariots, and all of these people are his assistants.
Prabhupāda: Jagannātha will be very much pleased upon you. Yes. Svalpam apy asya dharmasya trāyate mahato bhayāt. Little service to God is taken as great service. Kṛṣṇa is so kind. So we should try always to give the best service, best energy, and you become liberated. Actually we cannot give any service to Kṛṣṇa. He is unlimited. What is the value of our service? But He takes it seriously: "Oh, he is trying to give me some service." Otherwise what service He needs from us? Suppose He has created these big universes, what service we can give? By His will, He can create millions of universes.
1975 Conversations and Morning Walks
Room Conversation with Jesuit -- May 19, 1975, Melbourne:
Prabhupāda: Yes, He is very important, but He is son, a very important son. Just like father may have many sons, but one of them may be very important, very good assistant to the father so Christ is like that. He is son of God, very important, He's helping God coming down to reclaim these fallen souls that "Come to God, why you are suffering here?" Son, He's very faithful and important son. But the others, they are also sons, but they have forgotten God. Therefore they are suffering. So sometimes He sends His son or His devotee and sometimes He comes Himself, that is Kṛṣṇa.
Room Conversation with Two Lawyers and Guest -- May 22, 1975, Melbourne:
Prabhupāda: No, whoever may be. Not that I sit down in my armchair and I give direction. The poor soldiers are fighting. No. He should go. Courage. He should personally give direction, "Do like this." Who is doing that? The minister of defense is very comfortably sitting on his chair, and the poor soldiers are fighting. That is not required. He must go first of all: "Do like this." Just like in Battle of Kurukṣetra, Arjuna is in front; the other side, Duryodhana. The real fighters, they are face to face. Soldiers are assistant. Where is that? So they should be trained up. So unless he is by his nature very powerful, śauryam... What is that?
Morning Walk -- June 10, 1975, Honolulu:
Prabhupāda: He believed in God.
Siddha-svarūpa: Yes. And he had made a replica. He had made a small replica of the universe with all the planets floating and so on. He had made a small replica, and it was sitting in his house. And his assistant came one day, his atheist assistant, he came and he says, "Oh, who has made this wonderful replica of the universe?" And Sir Isaac Newton, who was sitting there reading, he says, "Oh, no one." And the man said, "What do you mean no one?" He says... He didn't look up. He just says, "No one made it." And he kept reading and the guy, the assistant, the atheist, he became very perturbed. He kept saying, "What do you mean, you fool? Obviously somebody made it. He must have great intelligence, and I'd like to meet the fellow who created this." And Sir Isaac Newton put down his book and says, "My friend, this is but a small replica of the universe, and you're the one who is always declaring that no one has created the universe. And now you're declaring to me that somebody must have created that. I'm saying it just happened, but you don't believe me. So how can I accept your logic when you say that all of this just happened?" (break)
Prabhupāda: ...temple is very nice. (break) ...is also very nice.
Garden Conversation with Dr. Gerson and devotees -- June 22, 1975, Los Angeles:
Dharmādhyakṣa: He's taken these psychological tests that Dr. Gerson is giving, Dāmodara Prabhu. He has already...
Prabhupāda: Who has tested?
Dāmodara: I was tested by Dr. Gerson and by his assistant.
Prabhupāda: So what did you find in him?
Room Conversation with Dr. John Mize -- June 23, 1975, Los Angeles:
Prabhupāda: Yes, Kṛṣṇa created these four division, brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaiśya, śūdra, but He does not belong to any one of them. He is neither brāhmaṇa nor kṣatriya nor vaiśya nor śūdra. He is transcendental. Similarly, our philosophy—just to make the human society very peaceful and making progress we wish to establish this system. A first-class man, group of men, brāhmaṇas, they will guide the kṣatriyas, and the kṣatriyas, the administrators, they will guide the vaiśya. Vaiśya means agriculture and cow protection and trade. And śūdra means those who are neither brāhmaṇa nor kṣatriya nor vaiśyas. They are simply worker, assistant. So there must be division like this. The brāhmaṇas should guide the kṣatriyas, and the kṣatriyas will administer the state, and the vaiśyas will produce foodstuff, and śūdras will help. Cooperation for common benefit. But the aim is spiritual realization. That is perfect society. If everyone is śūdra, without any aim of life, then there will be chaos.
Room Conversation with the Mayor of Evanston -- July 4, 1975, Chicago:
Prabhupāda: The vānaprastha life is accepted, generally, after fiftieth year, not earlier. Then the husband and wife travels all over, I mean to say, spiritual sanctified places. In India there are so many places. So in this way, there is no sex in the vānaprastha. Simply the wife remains as assistant. And she also practices austerities. And then the husband, when he is fully mature, he sends wife back to his elderly children to take care of her and he takes sannyāsa.
Press Conference -- July 9, 1975, Chicago:
Prabhupāda: Practical psychology.
Brahmānanda: She's asking where does woman fit into this structure?
Prabhupāda: Now, woman is supposed to be assistant of man. If woman is faithful wife of the first-class man, then she also becomes first-class. If she is assistant of the second-class man then he is also second-class. If she is assistant of the third-class man, then she is also third-class. Because she is assistant, so, according to her husband, or protector, she becomes first, second, third, fourth.
Reporter (3): But she doesn't have any structure at all until marriage?
Prabhupāda: No, she has got structure—she has got brain. I have already told. But not as good as man's brain.
Morning Walk -- July 14, 1975, Philadelphia:
Ravīndra-svarūpa: Also I heard that also in every act of..., like if I want to blink my eyelid, also there is a demigod. What is the necessity of so many demigods? Why can't Kṛṣṇa directly...
Prabhupāda: That how you can know? You are not the director. Director knows how many assistants he requires. You cannot know... You are under the direction. You are not director. (break) ...not a mechanic he cannot understand why there are so many parts in the motor car. He is a fool. He doesn't know. But a mechanic knows that these things are required.
Guru dāsa: If the soul cannot be burnt, why does the desire to be burnt in the material world there? Burnt, drowned...
Room Conversation -- August 21, 1975, Bombay:
Lalitā: "Missionary visa..." (Bengali) Citizenship... (Bengali)
Prabhupāda: What you have said?
Brahmānanda: "It can be continued if I get encouragement by the government."
Prabhupāda: "By allowing these foreign assistant as missionary men." That's all.
Brahmānanda: "As missionaries."
Prabhupāda: "As missionary men." Or "missionaries."
Lalitā: "Missionaries..." (Bengali). So they will see in what way they can best.
Prabhupāda: That's all. Jaya.
Morning Walk -- August 25, 1975, Vrndavana:
Prabhupāda: So then he will come.
Brahmānanda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: And then we shall give him good refreshment.
Bhāgavata: The assistant chief of police from Mathurā has booked the V.I.P. room for the 29th and 30th of this month.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: For whom?
Bhāgavata: For himself and his family. He wants to stay in the V.I.P. room for two days. He booked about a week ago.
Prabhupāda: For Janmāṣṭamī.
Morning Walk -- October 3, 1975, Mauritius:
Prabhupāda: Yes. Sāṅgopāngāstra-pārṣadam. Therefore Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura said, gaurāṅgera saṅgi-gaṇe, nitya-siddha kori māne: "All the associates of Lord Caitanya, they are ever liberated." Nitya-siddha kori māne. "Anyone accepts the assistants of Lord Caitanya as ever liberated—he also becomes liberated, simply by accepting the associates of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu who is helping Caitanya Mahāprabhu's mission, simply by accepting this, the man who is accepting, he becomes liberated." Se jāy brajendra-nanda pāś. Gaurāṅgera saṅgi-gaṇe, nitya-siddha kori māne, se jāy brajendra-nanda pāś.
Morning Walk -- October 5, 1975, Mauritius:
Prabhupāda: Yes. Those who are sinful, they do not take immediately birth. They first of all trained up in the hellish planet how to suffer to become accustomed and then they are taken birth, then suffer. Just like you pass I.A.S. Then you become an assistant to the magistrate. You learn. Then you are posted as magistrate. Even if you are fit for going back to home, back to Godhead, you are first of all transferred to the universe where Kṛṣṇa is now present, and there you become accustomed. Then you go to real Vṛndāvana.
Morning Walk -- October 20, 1975, Johannesburg:
Harikeśa: What is the Pope doing, then? (laughter)
Prabhupāda: He's another big bogus man. The Pope's assistant died in the prostitute's house.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: In Paris.
Harikeśa: The Pope comes out on his balcony, and thousands of people cheer and scream.
1976 Conversations and Morning Walks
Room Conversation -- January 19, 1976, Mayapur:
Bhavānanda: Subhaga. Oh, they love Subhaga. He preaches in the temple at the book table during the busy hours. So many people buy books, and all interested. He's very...
Prabhupāda: Subhaga. Subhaga make the chief of the reception. And Nitāicānda his assistant, and another, a foreigner.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Nitāicānda is in charge of the building.
Bhavānanda: He has so much to do, anyway, Nitāicānda. Subhaga is best.
Room Conversation -- January 19, 1976, Mayapur:
Prabhupāda: Subhaga and two foreigners.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: As assistants. Hm.
Prabhupāda: Make that arrangement. He is very good boy.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, he is really good.
Morning Walk -- February 5, 1976, Mayapura:
Prabhupāda: That's all right, but He creates by His energy. Just like I am creating this institution, but I am not doing directly, but my men or my assistants, they are doing it. (sound like conch) What is this sound?
Room Conversation with Reporter -- June 4, 1976, Los Angeles:
Reporter: Does it...? Is it more difficult to do this when you're traveling a lot?
Prabhupāda: No. I..., my work is going on. By traveling also, I carry this machine. Dicta..., dictaphone. I dictate, and then my assistants, they write, transcribe, and then it is..., it goes to the Press. In this way my work is.... (noise comes from outside)
Reporter: I'd like to ask one.... Is your role in the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement in the United States particularly or worldwide? Ten years ago, when you first came to the United States, did you take a very active role in the organization, and I'm wondering whether you do much of that now?
Garden Conversation -- June 14, 1976, Detroit:
Prabhupāda: Yes. So in big glass case.... One girl saw me in Los Angeles. No? Hawaii.
Hari-śauri: Candranibha?
Prabhupāda: So she's not getting facility in Hawaii. She can come here with two, three assistants. There is so much place here. So correspond with...
Mādhavānanda: Hawaii.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Or ask our Govinda dāsī. Write one letter to Govinda dāsī, I'll sign, that "You can come with your assistants. Here is a very good scope for doll making and exhibit. And the place is very nice. You'll like." So many other girls they can also learn. Doll making is very easy. It is not difficult.
Room Conversation -- June 28, 1976, New Vrindaban:
Prabhupāda: Fifth Avenue.
Rādhāvallabha: Brahmānanda?
Prabhupāda: Yes. He was Brahmānanda's assistant always. Mām eva ye prapadyante māyām etāṁ taranti te. Simply capture Kṛṣṇa's lotus feet. Māyā will not be able to... When you have come here?
Ṛṣi Kumāra: We just got here his afternoon.
Prabhupāda: "We" means along with...?
Room Conversation After Film -- June 28, 1976, New Vrindaban:
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. Kumbhamela we can show. You had been in Kumbhamela?
Ṛṣi Kumāra: No, I haven't. Last time it was Kumbhamela, I was in Bombay. I had to do some business with books and stuff.
Prabhupāda: So you begin this preaching work in India with this film. With few assistants go village to village. They'll appreciate very much. Here also they will appreciate. What do you think? School, college, university. They'll get an idea of new life.
Kīrtanānanda: Yes. There are many colleges that give courses now in alternate life styles.
Prabhupāda: Yes, this a...
Morning Walk -- July 11, 1976, New York:
Rāmeśvara: Prabhupāda, if the spiritual master has a mission, is it proper for the disciple to think that he can take more than one..., he can take many births to help the mission of the spiritual master?
Prabhupāda: When the spiritual master goes there, somewhere, his nearest assistants, they automatically go there to assist him. When Kṛṣṇa comes the demigods also come to help Him. That is there in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. All these Yadus, Yadu family, they came from heaven. So before Kṛṣṇa's disappearance, by some trick they were all killed and they returned to their original place. It is nicely described in the Caitanya-caritāmṛta. Just see, small house, this yellow. Still, in New York City.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, small little house.
Room Conversation -- July 18, 1976, New York:
Prabhupāda: And Jayānanda should be congratulated. Yes. Give one letter, written. I...
Bali-mardana: The carts looked magnificent.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Two people worked the hardest Prabhupāda, Jayānanda and all of his assistants, and Toṣaṇa Kṛṣṇa. He did all of the publicity and advertisement.
Prabhupāda: They should be congratulated.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: These two men, they worked the hardest.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They worked for two months in a row, solid. The carts were very good, I think.
Room Conversation -- July 31, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm):
Prabhupāda: In this way. Elderly student... That is the way of Indian teaching, that there is one teacher, and how he's managing hundreds? That means there are groups. One who is elderly student, he's taking some beginners: "Write a or A like this." That he can teach. What he has learned, he can teach. Similarly, next group, next group. So in this way, one teacher can manage hundreds of students of different categories. This is organization. Not that everything I have to do. I cannot teach anybody to do it. That is not intelligence. Intelligence is that employ others to help you. That is intelligence. Not that "Oh, I was busy, I could not do it." Why? What about your assistant? Train assistant so that in your absence things can be done. So the elderly students, they could be... Just Caitanya Mahāprabhu used to do that. When He was sixteen years old he could argue with Keśava Kāśmīrī, because He was practiced. In this way, stage after stage, everyone should be expert. Everyone should be teacher and student.
Evening Darsana -- August 9, 1976, Tehran:
Prabhupāda: They appreciate?
Nandarāṇī: Yes, we have explained to some of them the concepts in "Who is Crazy?" and Īśopaniṣad is a good book for them.
Prabhupāda: So your daughter is good assistant in the matter of cooking?
Nandarāṇī: Yes, they are both very good in cooking. And they clean the altar and they do some maintenance of the altar and the temple room, and they cook and sew, and I give them class in the morning, Bhagavad-gītā in English.
Prabhupāda: Yes, teach them personally. That Aniruddha is always chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Room Conversation -- November 24, 1976, Vrndavana:
Devotee (1): Would you also like to know the... 'Cause some of them are not in charge of certain departments but they work within a department.
Prabhupāda: Oh. He is assistant.
Devotee (1): Yes.
Prabhupāda: Then assistant name also the different, these departments. One man in charge and he may have several assistants. That is different thing. (pause) Robinson could not protest any, in any of my statement. He had to admit.
Hari-śauri: Yeah. I told you he was very interested in the philosophy, asking some very good questions.
Prabhupāda: Still he's asking, "Are you saying that we were something else before this life?" I said, "Yes." (laughter) (break) ...issue will help 99% about this controversy, brainwashing.
Morning Walk -- December 25, 1976, Bombay:
Prabhupāda: Yes. And, above all, his senses are imperfect. Therefore, from such persons with deficiency, how you can get real knowledge? That is not possible. We have to approach a person who has no deficiency. Then we shall get real knowledge. So Kṛṣṇa and His representative are persons without any deficiencies. So we have to take knowledge from Kṛṣṇa or one who represents Kṛṣṇa. Otherwise we'll be cheated, because he has got deficiencies.
Guest (1): But that you have said, that one of his colleague or assistant told to Gandhi that "There is danger, and you shouldn't go to the meeting," and in spite of that...
Prabhupāda: No, no, I did not say. I wrote one letter to Gandhi that, "Mahatmaji, you have got some respectability throughout the whole world. Now you struggled for so-called svarāja. Now you have got it. Better retire from this life and preach Bhagavad-gītā."
Guest (1): I think he listened to your advice because before he was murdered, on that day...
1977 Conversations and Morning Walks
Letter to Russian -- January 5, 1977, Bombay:
Prabhupāda: That you do not know very much.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: No, I was going to present it to some scholar and then to you. This man I brought today, that assistant editor, I think he will help. I can gradually give him work, and he's in Bombay. His Hindi is very good. He's assistant editor, so...
Prabhupāda: So you do that. Get the help of composition and monotype.
Letter to Russian -- January 5, 1977, Bombay:
Prabhupāda: So I have told them "Any amount I can invest. You print book and sell." That is my open secret. Print books, and distribute, and spend half in whichever life you do and half, again print books. That is my ambition (vision?). I want to see our philosophy is widely spread by different literatures. That I want to do.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. That will be very good. There are a few people here, like Vijeta, who is Saurabha's assistant, he could probably go to Bhuvaneśvara and supervise the construction.
Prabhupāda: Yes. So arrange.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: There are too many people here. We don't need that many in Bombay for the Bombay construction.
Prabhupāda: So let him come to Bhuvaneśvara. I am going after Kumbhamela. And begin the work immediately. We have got one gentleman, professor. He is good learned scholar. I can engage him for translating.
Room Conversation -- January 8, 1977, Bombay:
Prabhupāda: Relation is there. Relation is there. Otherwise, how can I address him? Relation is there. So this form Hare, means Hara, is the potency of Hari. (break) Just like you are a gṛhastha. You have got your wife, you have got your maidservant. The maidservant is doing something, wife is doing something, but you have many potencies. The managing director is there, but he has got many assistants. Similarly, the Supreme Person has got multi-assistants, potencies. So they are all accepted as Hara, Hari's potencies. So we have to approach Hari through the potency: "O Hare. O the potency of the Lord. O Lord, be merciful." We cannot jump over the Lord without going through the potency.
Room Conversation -- January 8, 1977, Bombay:
Prabhupāda: God has nothing to do personally. As we see a very big rich man, he hasn't got to do anything personally, but he has got so many assistants. They're doing everything. Similarly, parāsya śaktir vividhaiva śrūyate. But when the things are done, svābhāvikī jñāna-bala-kriyā. The knowledge is so perfect and things are done so nicely that it is automatically being done.
Room Conversation -- January 8, 1977, Bombay:
Prabhupāda: Gopāla is bothering too much about...
Mr. Asnani: No, Prabhupāda, with your blessings, I know the Assistant Commissioner, and he is number three or four in entire city of Bombay and a very much influential center. He's a courageous man also. He's a sarvaji(?). And if I will place this problem before him as and when it is necessary, he is there to guide us.
Prabhupāda: So first of all where is the necessity? I have been talking...
Room Conversation -- January 8, 1977, Bombay:
Girirāja: The thing is that the same constitution we've had since the beginning, and we've always got the exemption...
Prabhupāda: Yes. And why you are bothering? He's going Delhi?
Girirāja: Even last time the Assistant Commissioner...
Mr. Asnani: Who is there in Delhi, Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: This Gopāla Kṛṣṇa.
Mr. Asnani: Ah, let him go.
Room Conversation -- January 8, 1977, Bombay:
Prabhupāda: But let him go, but I think that why unnecessarily bother?
Mr. Asnani: Today there is no problem for us.
Girirāja: Yes. She's only the Assistant Commissioner. Last time also the Assistant Commissioner was...
Prabhupāda: What is the position...
Mr. Asnani: To which one you made, Kapoor?
Girirāja: No, that was Bhave? There's so many Assistant Commissioners.
Mr. Asnani: Yes, there are so many Assistant Inspecting Commissioners. Since we are living in Juhu-our temple is in Juhu-our registered office is at Juhu. So we will come in the jurisdiction of Tirumala (?) Chambers, which is near Naida, which is near...
Girirāja: Yes, I know that.
Morning Discussion about Kumbhamela -- January 8, 1977, Bombay:
Prabhupāda: I have got my overcoat.
Gurudāsa: It's very cold. We'll...
Hari-śauri: We can discuss it.
Gurudāsa: Yes. Whatever is possible. So there's a couple of other points. Number one—because you were speaking about the devotees becoming like Rāvaṇa on the roof, we're doing our own cooking. I have our own men. And one assistant cook I hired for a hundred rupees. This assistant cook is a very nice man.
Prabhupāda: Very nice.
Gurudāsa: He's so submissive.
Prabhupāda: I can cook my food in fifteen minutes, in so many varieties.
Gurudāsa: You used to do that.
Morning Discussion about Kumbhamela -- January 8, 1977, Bombay:
Dr. Patel: All the Britishers were organizing this Mela, Kumbha.
Prabhupāda: No, in... They were taking... The committee... I said that, "We have committee?" This is British time. One magistrate is the head and assistants, so many.
Dr. Patel: The government officers may not be getting any interest, only the Hindu officials, these British officers.
Discussion on Deprogrammers -- January 9, 1977, Bombay:
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Rāmeśvara: There's so much engagement in America right now.
Prabhupāda: As far as possible, I think Brahmānanda should be engaged with some assistant or some superior. Two. He should not be alone. That is the best solution.
Rāmeśvara: No one's giving engagements in New York. Now I have two people in L.A. beginning, Jagannath Sūta.
Prabhupāda: Then this kīrtana... This is kīrtana, speaking. Whatever little fault is there, that will be rectified.
Room Conversation -- January 24, 1977, Bhuvanesvara:
Prabhupāda: That is good.
Gargamuni: 'Cause his assistant, Mr. O'Neil, told me that they received a telex from Washington saying that formal protest should be made that ISKCON is not part of the CIA and also they are not funded by the government of the United States.
Prabhupāda: People can say anything. But if there is officially protest, that is...
Morning Room Conversation -- February 16, 1977, Mayapura:
Prabhupāda: The sun is moving-little, little, little. So Kṛṣṇa's pastimes go on—this universe, that universe, that universe, that universe. In some universe He's present. In all universes present, that is called nitya-līlā. So those who are advanced, perfect devotees, first of all they are sent there and then, further trained up, they enter. Mām eti. Just like after passing the administration examination he's made one assistant of some magistrate, and then gradually he'll be promoted up to the high-court judge.
Morning Room Conversation -- February 16, 1977, Mayapura:
Prabhupāda: Yes. Kṛṣṇa wants His assistants; the spiritual master also requires assistant. Everything is going on under Kṛṣṇa's direct supervision. Mayādhyakṣeṇa prakṛtiḥ sūyate sa-carācaram (BG 9.10).
Room Conversations -- February 20, 1977, Mayapura:
Prabhupāda: He was little crazy. Might have gone away from home. Very intelligent boy he was. His mother made him crazy. Very... He was standing first in school. Very intelligent. She spoiled the whole family life. It was good for... For my youngest daughter I selected one very nice boy, rich man. She did not give. She wanted to keep her as her assistant, and she's not married.
Room Conversation With Artists and About BTG -- February 25, 1977, Mayapura:
Prabhupāda: Yes, that is the ultimate. That is stated by Rūpa Gosvāmī,
- yena tena prakāreṇa
- manaḥ kṛṣṇe niveśayet
- sarve vidhi-niṣedhā syur
- etayor eva kiṅkarāḥ
that "Somehow or other, bring him to chant Kṛṣṇa or to become little Kṛṣṇa conscious. Then, when he's little purified, then the vidhi-niṣedhāḥ..." He's not rejecting the vidhi-niṣedhāḥ. Vidhi-niṣedhāḥ means regulative principles. It is not rejected, that... But when he's a little purified, this vidhi-niṣedhā syur etayor eva kiṅkarāḥ. Just like one... First of all let him become rich, get some money. And then, when he has got money, he can keep some servant, some assistant, some secretaries, like that. First of all earn money.
Room Conversation with Svarupa Damodara -- February 28, 1977, Mayapura:
Svarūpa Dāmodara: They were very thankful for the lecture. They actually made comment, saying that this is the strongest statement that they ever heard in the department, that, such a scientific comparative study. 'Cause I showed the charts that we have.
Prabhupāda: That is very encouraging. So pursue this method with your assistants. That is our challenge. That will enhance the importance of our movement.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: They even suggested that in the future, if we had any plan like that, we should just let them know about two or three weeks ahead so they can arrange others also in the other departments.
Room Conversation 'GBC Resolutions' -- March 1, 1977, Mayapura:
Prabhupāda: So that's a good idea. No, Jayatīrtha will be sent there.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: So he'll be assistant secretary?
Satsvarūpa: No. What we resolved is that Bhagavān dāsa would stay in his present zone: France and Italy and Sweden and Amsterdam; but that as far as Jayatīrtha, he would visit Paris and New Māyāpur to assist with the financial problems there, and after some time...
Prabhupāda: Jayatīrtha and Ātreya Ṛṣi, both.
Room Conversation 'GBC Resolutions' -- March 1, 1977, Mayapura:
Rāmeśvara: And Rādhā-Dāmodara.
Satsvarūpa: ...and the Rādhā-Dāmodara party, it was decided that he should keep the responsibility of being the GBC for that area. However, Ādi-keśava Mahārāja will act as special assistant to the GBC and take the on-the-spot responsibility.
Prabhupāda: That means he'll be trained up in his place. Is it not?
Room Conversation -- March 26, 1977, Bombay:
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Many..., some engineers came, and some doctors also came. They wanted us speak in Bombay Hospital. And just now also I got a letter from England from Jagadguru Swami. He said that on our way to the United States we should stop in England. He says that he talked something about Bhaktivedanta Institute in England. He said we should speak in Oxford and Cambridge Universities. He said there is a very good preaching background there. So he invited us to...
Prabhupāda: You will be invited. You stick to your position and train up your assistants and recruit more and more. We shall come out successful. Write books. You can take. Now yesterday Dr. Dattrey, did he say anything?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: He didn't say much, but Dr. Sharma, he was discussing, and he was telling that he will definitely make an arrangement in Bombay Hospital for us to speak. But he was very impressed. And some life members came later on when the greeting of the pandal was finished. And some engineers also. They want to discuss something today also.
Room Conversation -- March 26, 1977, Bombay:
Prabhupāda: It should be recorded.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: I didn't have my cassette with me.
Prabhupāda: You keep one assistant, to record you.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: But I pointed out the mistakes, the defects that we have in scientific studies, and he thought very carefully and he agreed to the point.
Prabhupāda: Yes, any intelligent man should agree to the right point.
Room Conversation -- March 27, 1977, Bombay:
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes. That I informed in the...
Prabhupāda: Yes, you informed, but that is confirmed?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes. He died of heart attack.
Prabhupāda: I thought of him to become good assistant.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: I thought we would get together very well, and we had plans together to start work, and come back in India. But about...
Prabhupāda: Finished.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes.
Interview with Mr. Koshi (Asst. Editor of The Current Weekly) -- April 5, 1977, Bombay:
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, this is Mr. B. T. Koshi. He is the assistant editor of The Current, which is a weekly news magazine.
Prabhupāda: "Current"?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: "Current."
Prabhupāda: Betiye.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You want to set this tape recorder up? (break)
Prabhupāda: He can sit.
Morning Conversation -- April 11, 1977, Bombay:
Prabhupāda: March?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. It is quite a... It's about two weeks old. Somehow or other, Śrīla Prabhupāda, the mail is... This was sent to Hyderabad, this letter. So that accounts for it. "BBT Trustees' Meeting. 1) Yogeśvara dāsa was appointed the Los Angeles production manager for all international publications and will also act as assistant to the English production manager, Rādhā-vallabha." Yogeśvara dāsa was already in Los Angeles, and the various different foreign BBT's were com-plaining that they weren't getting the proper help from L.A. BBT.
Prabhupāda: He?
Evening Darsana -- May 12, 1977, Hrishikesh:
Prabhupāda: Yes. Yes. Three months. Utmost, six months. And we are losing five to six lakhs of rupees per year for this injustice. I have pointed out the government that "In America they give permanent residentship to so many Indians. I am also. I have got that blue card, formal residence in America. So why don't you give them permanent residence? They are my assistants." "No." This is our misfortune. I am preaching Indian culture all over the world, and I am bringing at least ten lakhs of rupees, foreign exchange, for my Indian activities, but there is no help from the government. This is our position.
Letter from Yugoslavia--'Books!' -- June 30, 1977, Vrndavana:
Prabhupāda: So try to engage Gurudāsa also as your cooperator. Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That's a good word. If you said "assistant,"...
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Room Conversation-Recent Mail -- July 14, 1977, Vrndavana:
Prabhupāda: Yes. You train up assistants and this will be recognized by government and everyone. You'll do more than Columbus. (laughter) In the Washington, in different compartments, a different explanation of Bhāgavata śloka by dolls will attract millions of people to see. Will it not?
Room Conversation -- October 11, 1977, Vrndavana:
Prabhupāda: So certificate must be transferred there.
Girirāja: Yes. We've given them the certificates and the letter, and they've taken the responsibility. They're sending the certificates by registered post to the Vṛndāvana people with their instructions to transfer the money to New Delhi. So those will definitely reach here by Saturday when the assistant general manager comes. And if there's any hesitation, the assistant general manager will take care of it when he's here on Saturday. And I would think that by Monday or Tuesday we could get the certificates changed officially. And then, I think, we should have a least one account in their main branch in New Delhi. It would probably be easier to get inward remittances there. And if we want the interest from the fixed deposits to be kept there, we can have an account there for that. And that will keep us in good contact with the head office.
Prabhupāda: That's all right. Hm. (break)
Room Conversation -- October 15, 1977, Vrndavana:
Upendra: Girirāja is here, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: So, the bank business?
Girirāja: The manager came, I mean, not the manager, the assistant general manager from the head office. He came, and he brought the letter with our eleven-points program which we want to have, and he agreed with all of the points. And he said that probably Tuesday I can go to Delhi and collect the fixed deposit certificates, and they will be endorsed on the New Delhi branch.
Room Conversation -- October 17, 1977, Vrndavana:
Prabhupāda: (chuckles) Jīvo vā māro vā. Because we are going to accept eternity, so appearance and disappearance of this body is no a very important thing. Nitya-līlā, eternal life—that is our Kṛṣṇa consciousness. So, as early as possible. Take as far as possible our men. We can keep some assistant, local brāhmaṇa. If we keep one or two South Indian brāhmaṇas, they may take it that we are doing with cooperation. One or two can be kept.
Room Conversation -- October 29, 1977, Vrndavana:
Bhakti-caru: (asks kavirāja in Hindi) He says it's not good to have too much thirst. It's better in this condition. He's not eating anything. To have the thirst is a kind of disease when the bile secretion increases.
Kavirāja: No wind. (Hindi)
Prabhupāda: The assistant? Somebody is appointed assistant.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Adri-dhāraṇā is doing all assisting and serving to him, Adri-dhāraṇā, the boy who brought him.
Prabhupāda: No, Raṅganātha temple, somebody?
Room Conversation -- October 29, 1977, Vrndavana:
Prabhupāda: He has agreed.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He's agreed to stay for some time.
Prabhupāda: No, that assistant.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, we haven't approached anyone yet.
Bhakti-caru: No, he has come.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, you did approach?
Room Conversation -- October 29, 1977, Vrndavana:
Prabhupāda: Yes, that's all.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I know that also.
Prabhupāda: And his assistant is looting him.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. He thinks this assistant is his greatest friend. Just like he's leaving on a plane. He's going to arrive Monday morning by eight o'clock in the morning, yet he feels he has to send a telegram to his assistant on a Sunday. I said, "What is the point of sending a telegram? The telegram will reach after you arrive. And even if it doesn't, what is the purpose of sending a telegram?"
Room Conversation -- October 30, 1977, Vrndavana:
Prabhupāda: (Bengali) He does not agree. Then?
Bhavānanda: Agree to remain?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No. He... He'll either agree to remain or else we'll make him agree to take you to Māyāpur. Probably by our refusing to accept this assistant, it will induce him to stay here a little bit longer to prepare you for the journey, and then he'll take you to Māyāpur.
Prabhupāda: Journey, what is the difficulty?
Room Conversation -- October 31, 1977, Vrndavana:
Prabhupāda: You deal.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, I know how to do this because I was doing the saṅkīrtana, so I know what should come from the money he's spending. It's the same idea as anywhere in the world. You spend, it's business, business, whether it's dollars or rupees. I'll try...
Prabhupāda: That man who has kept, he's working as assistant, he is plundering.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, I think so.
Prabhupāda: He's a foolish man.
Prabhupada Vigil -- November 1, 1977, Vrndavana:
Prabhupāda: That is very little.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. But compared to other days, you took as much or more. Well, then we can postpone and we can put ourselves under the care of this other kavirāja who came the other day.
Prabhupāda: Who came?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Remember the kavirāja from the Raṅgajī temple? The assistant that this man was going to bring. So now we can be put under his care and take our chances. 'Cause that's what staying here means.
Bhavānanda: The kavirāja, he explained that if you remained here, that would be good. But he didn't think there was any risk of death for you to go to Māyāpur.
Prabhupāda: No, actually, when I was making parikrama, this corner, I was feeling fainted.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This corner?
Prabhupada Vigil -- November 1, 1977, Vrndavana:
Prabhupāda: That laying down and this laying down, that is different?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, then we have to think of what the alternative is. Staying here means being subject to the possible care of this assistant who you saw the other day, 'cause this kavirāja will not wait any longer. He can't stay here any longer. We can try and convince him to stay, but I don't know how successful we will be. And he may give his medicines, but if some unforeseen difficulty develops, then it means that we are under the care of this other person.
Bhavānanda: This palanquin parikrama is very rough. You're bouncing up and down. You're going swinging sideways.
Prabhupada Vigil -- November 1, 1977, Vrndavana:
Prabhupāda: So do that.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. The only reason that we were hesitant was because if something along the way happens, had he been here, he could have adjusted the medicine to suit the particular needs. Now, not being here, we'll have to depend upon this assistant in case something changes. If nothing changes, then there's no harm. But if something should suddenly alter...
Prabhupāda: So that time...
Prabhupada Vigil -- November 1, 1977, Vrndavana:
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Anything may come up. Just like sometimes you get a cough. Cough doesn't mean death. Sometimes you pass a little more stool. That doesn't mean death. So anyway, the idea is that having a kavirāja personally present naturally is the best thing. So if it's not possible, and that does develop, then we'll have to call upon the man he's..., this assistant.
Prabhupāda: So why call Māyāpur? Let him supply the medicine from Calcutta.
Room Conversation -- November 4, 1977, Vrndavana:
Prabhupāda: Kīrtana may be stopped now.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Stop for a while now. For the rest of the night it's good if there's... (kīrtana stops) The kavirāja's assistant came this evening. We hadn't called him. I think he came on his own. He wanted to see how you were. I didn't think there was so much need for him to see you. He's not so senior a man. And the medicine is already prescribed, so what would be the benefit of his coming? We're not going to allow him to change the medicine, so I felt there was no real need. We can... Bhakti-caru Mahārāja spoke with him, gave him report of how you are.
Prabhupāda: He is also educated?
Room Conversation -- November 5, 1977, Vrndavana:
Prabhupāda: Brāhmaṇas?
Girirāja: Well, before Yaśodānandana Swami left, he had written the brāhmaṇas that the new date was going to be January lst, and I spoke to Yaśodānandana Swami's assistant, Smara-hari, and he was not sure whether the brāhmaṇas had confirmed this. So he was going to write them today and ask them to confirm that January lst was all right. But he received a letter from Yaśodānandana Swami saying that Yaśodānandana Swami would be coming December 26th. So he's definitely planning to be there in time. And at the time that we postponed the last opening, the brāhmaṇas said that whenever we want to have the opening, they are always ready to come. So it seems that they should be able to come on December 28th or 29th to begin the ceremonies.
Prabhupāda: The brāhmaṇas must be fixed first of all.
Room Conversation -- November 5, 1977, Vrndavana:
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But stool-passing this many times is not right either. Passing stool five, six times, that is not right. It's obvious that it's a result of something. It's either the medicine or the diet. Prabhupāda says it's the medicine, just like last time when he took that makara-dhvaja, and he was right. It was the medicine. (break) ...the best thing to do. There may be some good effect by taking the medicine in addition to the causing you to pass stool. So if by giving you some other small medicine at the same time, you can still take this medicine and you don't pass stool, then that's the best thing. This only a kavirāja knows. I don't know this. I have no idea. Maybe we should take the help of that... This doesn't seem like a very difficult thing, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Passing stool is something that any kavirāja should be able to treat, and maybe for this small thing we should call that assistant who was here yesterday. That's why that kavirāja from Calcutta arranged for there to be an assistant here, in case... In other words he came and diagnosed the disease, and he made a very complicated thing, medicine that an expert had to make. And for the fact that there might be some side effect, that you may not sleep properly or you might be passing stool, something of this kind, he found out one assistant for the purpose of helping in these cases. So why not carry through with that and take the help of this assistant, see what he says? This is a common ailment that people have, diarrhea or passing stool too often, loose bowels. That's not a very major problem.
Prabhupāda: No, you have to stop.
Room Conversation -- November 8, 1977, Vrndavana:
Prabhupāda: Go on like that.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Who should be... They will adjust. Each one should have a head brāhmaṇa plus three other assistants.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay.
| Page Title: | Assistant (Conversations) |
| Compiler: | Visnu Murti, JayaNitaiGaura |
| Created: | 06 of Jun, 2011 |
| Totals by Section: | BG=0, SB=0, CC=0, OB=0, Lec=0, Con=97, Let=0 |
| No. of Quotes: | 97 |