Dr. Patel: Are you going tomorrow?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Dr. Patel: Tomorrow at what time?
Prabhupāda: I do not know. What time?
Saurabha: What time, Harikeśa?
Harikeśa: Actually, nobody knows.
Dr. Patel: Tomorrow is Christmas day. You are going on twenty-seventh.
Prabhupāda: No, twenty-fifth.
Kīrtanānanda: Somebody said you were going at noon.
Harikesa: I don't think anyone knows yet.
Kīrtanānanda: Why is that?
Harikesa: Haven't bought the tickets yet.
Kīrtanānanda: No reservations yet?
Prabhupāda: All right just to understand? If truth is there, there is no question of experiment. And if experiment is there, that is not truth.