Prabhupāda: "Poor Christ, he has to suffer for all the sinful activities, and he wanted to save us from sin, gave his injunction. That we shall not care." This is Christian religion. And therefore they have to close down this hypocrisy. (break) That Melbourne meeting, some of you were with me? No. In Melbourne I was invited by some. . . many priests. Twice I was invited. The first meeting I am speaking. So there was a good meeting, all respectable priests. So they asked me that "Why Christian religion is dwindling? What we have done?" So I asked them that "What you have not done?" (laughter) So they were not very much pleased. But I, in the open meeting, I said, "What you have not done? You have done all sinful activities. Therefore you have to close down this hypocrisy now." That was my answer, "What you have not done?" Now they are sorry, "What we have done?" That is called ignorance. They have done everything all sinful. They do not know that it is sinful. (break) . . .Bible, "Thou shall not kill," they'll not obey. That is sinful. Everything is there clearly, Ten Commandments, but they will not do that. Willful sinners. One may act sinfully, unaware. But they are willfully sinners. They know this is sin, and still they are doing that.
Devotee (1): But they don't think it is sin, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Devotee (1): They don't think it is sin.
Prabhupāda: Why?
Viṣṇujana: They say that. . .
Prabhupāda: That means they are rascals.
Viṣṇujana: Yeah, that's the problem.
Prabhupāda: That means they are rascals.
Viṣṇujana: They want to gratify their senses, and they'll do anything and even misinterpret the scripture to gratify their senses.
Prabhupāda: That means a set of rascals, going on in the name of religion. But, how long they can cheat others? So you can cheat all for some time, and you can cheat some for all time, but not all for all time. (laughter)
Devotee (2): Is it all right to. . . You mentioned that to work hard is like. . . Because we're in the material world we have to work, this is the condemnation. . .
Prabhupāda: No, no. You have to work, but minimize work.
Devotee (2): I was wondering if it was all right to work hard for Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: Yes. To minimize this material work means the energy should be employed for Kṛṣṇa. Minimize work this, means this side, material side. And save time and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. That's all. That is the principle. And if you are busy from the early morning to go to the working place and up to ten o'clock, then where you get for chanting, time? So therefore you save time from material activities and engage it for advancing Kṛṣṇa consciousness. That is life.