Yogeśvara: They just accumulate knowledge just for knowledge. They just accumulate knowledge just for knowledge sake. All these big . . .
Prabhupāda: Not just for knowledge, because they do not get any knowledge. They have no knowledge. What is the knowledge? They talk all nonsense. What is the knowledge?
Revatīnandana: His argument was, "Well, there's no point in talking about this matter. All of us accept this." He's saying: all big authorities, they accept this point of view, that this was recently written literature.
Prabhupāda: No, they don't know who are authorities.
Revatīnandana: That's right.
Prabhupāda: You manufacture your own authorities. You do not know. That is your misfortune. You do not know who is authority.
Bhagavān: They all smoke cigarettes and they think they're authorities. They're nonsense.
Revatīnandana: I met another old authority on Sanskrit, and he is sitting behind his desk and his whole body is shaking, "No, I'm not interested in the spiritual side of these Vedas. I'm just interested in the Sanskrit." He's dying, you know, and still he's like that. That's their authority. You can't save them, but . . .
Prabhupāda: Adhyaki, adhyaki. They're called adhyaki.
Revatīnandana: What's that?
Prabhupāda: External. Adhyaki. Just like the . . . one is interested with the body not with the soul. So he is a fool. This, this sculptor, he is simply interested in the outward body. He has no knowledge of the soul. And he wants to become a very famous man, remaining in the category of asses. Because one who is in the bodily concept of life, he is an ass. Go-khara. Khara means ass. Sa eva go-kharaḥ (SB 10.84.13). Yasyātma-buddhiḥ kuṇape tri-dhātuke.
Anyone who is in the bodily concept of life, he is no better than animal. The cats and dogs, they are also in the bodily concept of life. Sa eva go-kharaḥ. So he has not advanced beyond these cats and dogs because he is in the same conception that, "I am this body." A dog cannot understand that you are not this body. So similarly, if the human being cannot understand that he is not this body, what is the difference between him and the dog? So śāstra says, sa eva go-kharaḥ (SB 10.84.13): he's no better than the cows and the asses. That's all.
And actually it is a fact. The first instruction of Bhagavad-gītā, they cannot take it, and they're scholars. That is the most regrettable situation, that these fools and rascals under the bodily concept of life, they are become authorities. Actually they are asses. Yes.
Revatīnandana: I used to observe when I was going to the university that all my professors, their intellectual business was just a profession, like digging ditches.
Prabhupāda: That's all. For earning money.
Revatīnandana: For their pleasure they're going home to drink beer and eat steak. That's all they're really interested in. They're just working to make money. I could see it, and I didn't want to follow their footsteps.
Prabhupāda: Just like a śūdra, he cleans in the road for money. They are going as professor, but the category is the same. You don't make any distinction between that sweeper and this professor. Or a hog and cat and dog. The hog is also working hard whole day and night for stool, eating. So this man is also working like that. Beyond that, he has no other knowledge.