Dr. Kneupper: Do you basically reject the modern civilization?
Prabhupāda: No, no. I say they are being foolishly trained.
Dr. Kneupper: I see.
Prabhupāda: The whole education system is bad.
Dr. Kneupper: You see no hope that there will be change.
Prabhupāda: There is hope. There is cent percent hope, provided you accept the right way.
Dr. Kneupper: But would you say the right way would have to be, let's say, to be a follower of Kṛṣṇa?
Prabhupāda: God means Kṛṣṇa.
Dr. Kneupper: What about...? As I understand, in the Gītā...
Prabhupāda: God... Kṛṣṇa means all-attractive. So God must be all-attractive, full controller. Our definition of God is
- aiśvaryasya samagrasya
- vīryasya yaśasaḥ śriyaḥ
- jñāna-vairāgyayoś caiva
- sannam iti bhagam itīṅganāḥ
- (Viṣṇu Purāṇa 6.5.47)
All wealth, all power, all intelligence, all beauty, all renunciation. In this way.