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| <div class="heading">So we are Brahmā sampradāya-our disciplic succession from Brahmā. Therefore we shall accept Brahmā's statement and we worship ādi-puruṣam, Govindam. We may not know that ādi-puruṣa, but we follow the footsteps of ācāryas. | | <div class="heading">So we are Brahmā sampradāya-our disciplic succession from Brahmā. Therefore we shall accept Brahmā's statement and we worship ādi-puruṣam, Govindam. We may not know that ādi-puruṣa, but we follow the footsteps of ācāryas. |
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| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Initiation and Brahma-samhita Lecture -- New York, July 26, 1971|Initiation and Brahma-samhita Lecture -- New York, July 26, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Kṛṣṇa is ādi-puruṣa; He's a person. But because He's not a person like us, therefore ordinary person cannot understand God can be person. He thinks that "God must be a person like me." His limited knowledge, speculator, poor fund of knowledge, he thinks that "God must be like me." Therefore in some of the scriptures He's denied personality, because this rascal thinks that "God is a person like me." Therefore it is said: not person. When it is said God is not person, that means He's not a person like you. He's not a rascal like you. That is description. When it is negatively described that He's not a person, that means He's not a person like you. But He's a person, a different person. Sac-cid-ānanda vigraha. Īśvaraḥ paramaḥ kṛṣṇaḥ sac-cid-ānanda-vigrahaḥ (Bs. 5.1). His person is eternal. He does not die. We die. He's full of bliss. Our, this body, is not full of bliss; full of miseries. So how God can be a person like you? Therefore sometimes He is described as impersonal. Otherwise God is a person. He's a person like us, and He's the original person. Govindam ādi-puruṣam tam ahaṁ bhajāmi **. So those who are in poor fund of knowledge, they can understand that the Absolute Truth is a person. Therefore we have to take lessons from Brahmā, the supreme poet, or learned person, who is the original person. And he says: govindam, govindam ādi-puruṣam. And he says, tam ahaṁ bhajāmi: "I worship."</p> | | |
| <p>So we are Brahmā sampradāya-our disciplic succession from Brahmā. Therefore we shall accept Brahmā's statement and we worship ādi-puruṣam, Govindam. We may not know that ādi-puruṣa, but we follow the footsteps of ācāryas. Brahmā says this. Brahmā's disciple, Nārada, says like that. Nārada's disciple Vyāsa says like that. Vyāsa's disciple, Madhvācārya, says like that. In this way, Īśvara Purī says like that. His disciple, Caitanya Mahāprabhu, says like that. His disciple, Gosvāmīs, Ṣaḍ-gosvāmīs, they say like that. In this way, we receive knowledge by paramparā, by step by step in the disciplic succession. Therefore our knowledge is perfect.</p>
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| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Initiation and Brahma-samhita Lecture -- New York, July 26, 1971|Initiation and Brahma-samhita Lecture -- New York, July 26, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;"> |
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| | Kṛṣṇa is ''ādi-puruṣa''—He's a person. But because He's not a person like us, therefore ordinary person cannot understand God can be person. |
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| | He thinks that, "God must be a person like me." His limited knowledge, speculator, poor fund of knowledge, he thinks that, "God must be like me." Therefore in some of the scripture He's denied personality, because this rascals think that, "God is a person like me." Therefore it is said: "Not person". |
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| | When it is said God is not person, that means He's not a person like you. He's not a rascal like you. That is description. When it is negatively described that He's not a person, that means He's not a person like you. But He's a person, he is a different person. ''Sac-cid-ānanda vigraha. Īśvaraḥ paramaḥ kṛṣṇaḥ sac-cid-ānanda-vigrahaḥ'' (Bs. 5.1). |
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| | His person is eternal. He does not die. We die. He's full of bliss. Our this body, is not full of bliss, full of miseries. So how God can be a person like you? Therefore sometimes He is described as imperson. Otherwise, God is a person. He's a person like us, and He's the original person. ''Govindam ādi-puruṣam tam ahaṁ bhajāmi''. |
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| | So those who are in poor fund of knowledge, they can understand that the Absolute Truth is a person. Therefore we have to take lessons from Brahmā, the supreme poet, or learned person, who is the original person. And he says: ''govindam'', ''govinda ādi-puruṣam''. And he says, ''tam ahaṁ bhajāmi'': "I worship." |
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| | So we are Brahma-sampradāya—our disciplic succession from Brahmā. Therefore we shall accept Brahmā's statement, and we worship ''ādi-puruṣam'', Govindam. We may not know that ''ādi-puruṣa'', but we follow the footsteps of ''ācāryas''. Brahmā says this. Brahmā's disciple, Nārada, says like that. |
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| | Nārada's disciple Vyāsa says like that. Vyāsa's disciple, Madhvācārya, says like that. In this way . . . Īśvara Purī says like that. His disciple, Caitanya Mahāprabhu, says like that. His disciple, Gosvāmīs, ''ṣaḍ-gosvāmīs'', they say like that. In this way, we receive knowledge by ''paramparā'', by step by step in the disciplic succession. Therefore our knowledge is perfect. |
