Prabhupāda: Nainaṁ chindanti śastrāṇi, nainaṁ dahati pāvakaḥ (BG 2.23), living entity it is not burned. Neither it is moistened, neither is it dried up but this material action does not affect, asaṅgo 'yaṁ puruṣaḥ (Bṛhad-āraṇyaka Up. 4.3.16). This puruṣaḥ the living entity has nothing to do, it never mixes with the material element it is only body encagement.
So if somebody has got earthly encagement, somebody has got waterly encagement, why not a fire encagement? Airy encagement. Ether, ethereal encagement they are different matters only. So these rascals they do not understand, we have to preach them. This is science, nature. This is understanding.
Pañca-draviḍa: Sometimes we have experienced that some people are able to call spirits from the dead.
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Pañca-draviḍa: They are able to talk to people who have passed away they...
Prabhupāda: This is all nonsense, we don't believe in this.
Pañca-draviḍa: They cannot come.
Prabhupāda: You won't find this anywhere in śāstras.
Pañca-draviḍa: But the śāstras speak of ghosts.
Prabhupāda: Ghost is another thing it has got no body.
Pañca-draviḍa: But sometimes these mediums.
Prabhupāda: He's subtle body, he's got subtle body not this gross body.
Pañca-draviḍa: Sometimes these mediums they are able to contact ghosts and carry on conversations.
Prabhupāda: So what is there? Very important.
Pañca-draviḍa: No, but I was wondering is there anybody who has this power to be able to see the living entities in fire? Is there anybody in this world.
Prabhupāda: What is the use if even you see?
Pañca-draviḍa: Hm.
Prabhupāda: Simply knowing is sufficient, just like you see the water there is a living entity, everyone knows it. What more you want to know? And what benefit you will derive?
Pañca-draviḍa: No benefit.
Prabhupāda: (indistinct)
Pañca-draviḍa: Just curious.
Prabhupāda: Every, sarva-gataḥ (BG 2.24). The living entity can live anywhere either in the fire, or the air, the earth, or water, anywhere, sarva-gataḥ. Therefore it is known as the senses. How it is possible that you can see that the other living entities. The fish is living in the water but you cannot live. And the fish cannot live on the land that is the nature's creation a particular type of body lives in a particular place. What is the difficulty?
The pig can eat stool but you cannot eat, so there are different varieties of living entities with varieties of material ingredients. And by God's arrangement and nature's arrangement they are there, so much you can do, what else you can do? Your power of knowledge is limited, how it is known, how it is living, how it is possible that is not difficult that is not possible. Neither you can know it, it is not possible.