Prabhupāda: Human being comes to perfection when he is Kṛṣṇa conscious. So gradually they would have to come. Just like the bud of rose flower. When it is bud it is not so useful. When it fructifies, becomes a blossomed rose, then it is useful. Similarly, human being in other stages of life they are like buds. When they come to Kṛṣṇa consciousness then they are blossomed flower.
Hari-śauri: But if they're committing so many sinful activities, murdering their father and like this, then how will they get to that stage of being able to approach Kṛṣṇa consciousness?
Prabhupāda: No, it will be checked. It will be checked. Just like if there is some worm in the bud, then the growing will be checked.
Śrutakīrti: Are the lower human species responsible for sinful activities?
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. As soon as one is human being, he is responsible. Just like your state laws. Suppose a aborigine comes and does something criminal, will he be excused? Animal may be excused, but the man will not be excused.
Australian devotee 7: Śrīla Prabhupāda, they mightn't excuse him, but they mightn't treat him as harshly as they would treat somebody in knowledge. Is this the same with the activities that these people perform?
Prabhupāda: What is that?
Śrutakīrti: He said he wouldn't be treated as bad because an aborigine is not considered...
Australian devotee 7: He hasn't got the knowledge. He's ignorant.
Prabhupāda: Still he is not excused by the law.
Australian devotee 6: He would be treated leniently.
Australian devotee 7: Would he be treated more leniently than someone that has knowledge.
Prabhupāda: I do not know that. But ignorance is no excuse.