Harikeśa: This is experimental philosophy.
Prabhupāda: But that.... Experimental philosophy means rascaldom. You do not know actually what is the fact. Then you make experiment. That means you are rascal.
Harikeśa: I meant that this thesis, antithesis...
Prabhupāda: Just like Kṛṣṇa does not say, "Make an experiment." He says the fact: asmin dehe dehinaḥ. "The proprietor of the body is within this body." There is no question of experimenting.
Harikeśa: But that's our thesis.
Prabhupāda: Not.... I say "thesis." Kṛṣṇa do.... Kṛṣṇa says the fact.
Harikeśa: But I mean in order to...
Prabhupāda: But if you don't accept Kṛṣṇa's...
Harikeśa: Yeah, they don't accept. So that, that's our thesis.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Then, then take it as thesis.
Harikeśa: Thesis. So therefore it's an experiment.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Not experiment. It is to be subjected to discussion. That is not experiment. Because the fact is there. Now whether it is fact, that you have to discuss.
Harikeśa: So this experimental knowledge should be strictly kept in the scientific realm. You know, discussion...? Because you asked me before to write on...
Prabhupāda: The scientific knowledge is already there, but as you do not accept it, then the question of discussion, or, you say, experiment, can come. The truth is already there. Just like the sun is the truth, is there. Everyone knows. Now somebody says "There is no light," and somebody says "There is light." Now it has to be discussed.