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<div class="heading">We do not require to satisfy the scientists. We have to describe according to our book. That's all. If they can understand, let them understand. Otherwise... It is not our business to satisfy the so-called scientists. We are giving the real description. (break) That Sokimala.(?) (break) (indistinct).
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- June 18, 1977, Vrndavana|Room Conversation -- June 18, 1977, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Bhakti-prema: This is Lokāloka Mountain. We're drawing that.</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- June 18, 1977, Vrndavana|Room Conversation -- June 18, 1977, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Yaśodānandana: Then it describes here that "On the west and east of Ilāvṛta-varṣa are two great mountains named Mālyavān and Gandhamādana respectively. These two mountains, which are 2,000 yojanas, 16,000 miles..." [break] "...in the north and Niṣadha mountain in the south. They indicate the borders of Ilāvṛta-varṣa and also the v arṣas named as Ketumāla-varṣa and Bhadrāśva-varṣa." Then it gets into more details regarding Mount Meru. "Text number eleven. On the four sides of the great mountain known as Sumeru are four mountains," these Mandara Parvata. This is the mountain.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So how you'll show actually?</p>
<p>Bhakti-prema: This is according to Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, that's all right. Now, that doll, that you have to make.</p>
<p>Yaśodānandana: We are calling one artist from Māyāpur. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa Mahārāja has arranged to bring one artist, so we're going to draw perspectives. We're going to draw this and all... (break)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: We have some artist. We have... That's all. That is perfect.</p>
<p>Bhakti-prema: It is also repeated in Upaniṣads, iti susruma dhīrāṇām.(?)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: This...</p>
<p>Bhakti-prema: From the intelligence...</p>
<p>Yaśodānandana: This knowledge will actually destroy their misconceptions, 'cause most people think that previously, to five thousand years ago, people used to be barbarians. But if they were barbarians and they knew the whole description of the universe, they must have been very advanced.</p>
<p>Bhakti-prema: This is Lokāloka Mountain. We're drawing that.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We're simply following your Bhāgavatam description, Śrīla Prabhupāda.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We're simply following your Bhāgavatam description, Śrīla Prabhupāda.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Not that... Iti susru... (break)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Not that... Iti susru... (break)</p>
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<p>Prabhupāda: Mention by picture.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Mention by picture.</p>
<p>Bhakti-prema: So how we will expose it before scientists?</p>
<p>Bhakti-prema: So how we will expose it before scientists?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: We do not require to satisfy the scientists. We have to describe according to our book. That's all. If they can understand, let them understand. Otherwise... It is not our business to satisfy the so-called scientists. We are giving the real description. (break) That Sokimala.(?) (break) (indistinct)</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: We do not require to satisfy the scientists. We have to describe according to our book. That's all. If they can understand, let them understand. Otherwise... It is not our business to satisfy the so-called scientists. We are giving the real description.</p>
<p>Upendra: Not like that, no. There have been some clouds.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Something in the sea turns right, and the whole thing becomes (indistinct). (break)</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: ...the original Laṅkā. Ceylon, of course, is there, but it is not Laṅkā.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Ceylon is different.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Who knows what else we will discover today. These things... When we are actually...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: The Andaman, Nicobar Islands...</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What did you say, Śrīla Prabhupāda?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: There are other islands.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Andaman, Nicobar, like that.</p>
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh. But we're not... Bhakti-prema Mahārāja said that yesterday he was going to look through the commentaries to try and understand which these referred to in present-day geography. He wasn't certain about. He only knew that one was...</p>
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"So how we will expose it before scientists"

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1977 Conversations and Morning Walks

We do not require to satisfy the scientists. We have to describe according to our book. That's all. If they can understand, let them understand. Otherwise... It is not our business to satisfy the so-called scientists. We are giving the real description.

Room Conversation -- June 18, 1977, Vrndavana:

Yaśodānandana: Then it describes here that "On the west and east of Ilāvṛta-varṣa are two great mountains named Mālyavān and Gandhamādana respectively. These two mountains, which are 2,000 yojanas, 16,000 miles..." [break] "...in the north and Niṣadha mountain in the south. They indicate the borders of Ilāvṛta-varṣa and also the v arṣas named as Ketumāla-varṣa and Bhadrāśva-varṣa." Then it gets into more details regarding Mount Meru. "Text number eleven. On the four sides of the great mountain known as Sumeru are four mountains," these Mandara Parvata. This is the mountain.

Prabhupāda: So how you'll show actually?

Bhakti-prema: This is according to Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam.

Prabhupāda: No, that's all right. Now, that doll, that you have to make.

Yaśodānandana: We are calling one artist from Māyāpur. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa Mahārāja has arranged to bring one artist, so we're going to draw perspectives. We're going to draw this and all... (break)

Prabhupāda: We have some artist. We have... That's all. That is perfect.

Bhakti-prema: It is also repeated in Upaniṣads, iti susruma dhīrāṇām.(?)

Prabhupāda: This...

Bhakti-prema: From the intelligence...

Yaśodānandana: This knowledge will actually destroy their misconceptions, 'cause most people think that previously, to five thousand years ago, people used to be barbarians. But if they were barbarians and they knew the whole description of the universe, they must have been very advanced.

Bhakti-prema: This is Lokāloka Mountain. We're drawing that.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We're simply following your Bhāgavatam description, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda: Not that... Iti susru... (break)

Bhakti-prema: Except this Kimpuruṣa-varṣa and other varṣas in the mountain area, these are part of subtle world. So how we will mention it?

Prabhupāda: Mention by picture.

Bhakti-prema: So how we will expose it before scientists?

Prabhupāda: We do not require to satisfy the scientists. We have to describe according to our book. That's all. If they can understand, let them understand. Otherwise... It is not our business to satisfy the so-called scientists. We are giving the real description.

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